Andino - Jul 18, 2007 3:55 pm - Voted 10/10
Bravo !Very nice perspective ;o)
Nanuls - Jul 21, 2007 2:19 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Bravo !Thankyou, I love this spot it always catches the snow, a rare thing in Wales!
Aspen - Aug 16, 2007 10:47 pm - Voted 10/10
Bottomless PitIt truly does look like a bottomless pit! Welcome to the Cold Heart of Hell!! *evil laugh* Mwwhahahaha!!!
Knight
Nanuls - Aug 17, 2007 8:59 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Bottomless Pitnow your worrying me!
Cheers
Dan
yatsek - Nov 26, 2008 8:40 am - Voted 10/10
The SensesThe area looks handsome, clad in thin white, with this black hole. Does it sound more or less like this:
kreiglin divi @ æræn vauðwi ?
Nanuls - Nov 26, 2008 11:10 am - Hasn't voted
Re: The SensesThanks very much! And your pronounciation is so close too. The first word should be more like Duvi.
yatsek - Nov 26, 2008 11:49 am - Voted 10/10
Re: the uU mean U as in "put", or the vowel in "fur/fir"?
Nanuls - Nov 26, 2008 11:58 am - Hasn't voted
Re: the uoh sorry I'm so used to the language I don't even think about these things - as in 'fur' or 'furrow', or 'fun'.
yatsek - Nov 26, 2008 2:23 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: Tough FunIt's usually complicated no matter you're used to the language or not:-) As to the English sounds and signs representing them, I'm used to the so called RP, i.e. "BBC" version. The problem is that it has the same sound/sign for the vowel in both "fun/bus" and "love/tough", while in N England the former sounds like "put" (this U is quite close to the Polish U).
So, to sum up, is your/our U like the vowel sound in "foot" (or at least closer to the one in "foot" than to that in "rough/done')?
Nanuls - Nov 27, 2008 6:33 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Tough FunNnothing like foot, 'U' sounds like a short 'ee', as in 'seen'; never as in 'cup'.
Does that make sense?
yatsek - Nov 27, 2008 7:25 am - Voted 10/10
Re: dYfiHope I'm getting warmer:-) So now my guess is it must be something close to the most common vowel sound in English ("schwa"= ә ):
climbEr, barrEn, pencIl, murmUr, cOnsensUs
???
Nanuls - Nov 27, 2008 8:09 am - Hasn't voted
Re: dYfiRight! your getting it - 'Y' in Welsh is (normally) like the 'U' in murmur or consensus in English; and 'U' in Welsh is like the sound 'ee' in Engish like in keen or deep.
Just to complicate things 'Y' in certain Welsh words is sometimes also prononounced as an 'ee', but there aren't many uses of this. The most common it 'ty' which means house.
yatsek - Nov 27, 2008 9:56 am - Voted 10/10
Re: U & I LOLAha! Right, now we're done with the sound, time to deal with the letter U: as there's no roof over it, the sound shouldn't be longer than that of the letter I. Do both of them sound alike then?
Nanuls - Nov 27, 2008 10:29 am - Hasn't voted
Re: U & I LOLYes, that's it, they both sound alike! Nice one, I should have probably said somthing like that earlier... sorry!
yatsek - Nov 27, 2008 12:02 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: U & I LOLThat's OK, Dan. I do like sorting out problems. Perhaps just different examples or some international signs for non-native English speakers would do.
Diolch yn fawr,
Jacek
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