Kazbek (the correct name is Mkinvartsveri anyways) is not the highest peak of Georgia. It is Shkhara, 5158 m or 5068 m. In any case the highest one in Georgia.
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/186306/shkhara.html
Cheers,
Peter
John Climber - May 24, 2006 3:52 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Georgia
Thin Air,
I am awared of this issue. It is good that you give me your opinion. I understood (from my sources) that Shkara (with discussion over its height in any case) is mostly situated in Russia, therefore, the summit is in Russia. Is that true?
This list that I made goes about summits. If the summit is in Georgia I shoud correct it and change Mkinvartsveri for Shkhara. If the summit is in Russia I will leave as it is. When I did the list I had to take an objective system to choose the difficult cases (like this one) and I decided to choose for the summit criteria. Maybe you could help me with it. Thanks.
Shkhara is officially the highest peak of Georgia. It is on the Caucasus main crest, which the border Russia-Georgia.
The official elevation is 5158 m, though on maps "Gora Shkhara" (this does mean mountain Shkhara, not necessarily highest point) is assigned as 5068 m.
There is a surveyed point of 5157.8 m on the ridge, which should be the real Shkhara main. Every other elevation would have to be proven (not speculated).
The second highest is Janga-Tau (5058 m officially, 5085 m on other maps), not Mkinvartsveri either.
But besides - good idea, the list. Some rather interest peaks/facts on there.
As you probably know the 'Botrange' is not really a mountain but more a small hill or 'higher plateau' so it will be difficult to find a real mountain-picture. You can take a look at the 'Signal de Botrange' page.
Rysy massif culminates in 3 summits . The main, middle one is 2503 m asl high and situated on Slovak side, the north-western summit(2499.2 m asl) - the highest point of Poland lies precisely on the Polish-Slovak borderline .
Greetings from Poland
Tomek
John Climber - May 24, 2006 9:25 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Rysy - High Tatra (Poland/Slovakia)
Tomek,
Thanks for solving my doubt. I knew something was happening with those three summits. You were clarifying my doubts. Thanks. I will correct it a.s.a.p. Greetings
John Climber - May 25, 2006 11:34 am - Hasn't voted
Re: 40eth row, counting from above...
toc,
thanks for your corrections. Everything should be right now!
Maybe you should add links of the mountains that are in summitpost's data?
There are also some new pages as far as I know: f.e. Coma Pedrosa.
Regards
jck
Indeed...Americans have their States' Highpoints...with a group of people who accept the challenge to summit all of them. I thought that we could have the same in Europe. Nothing to compare with all those high peaks of Karakorum or China, but there is a challenge for europeans too, just next door. So far I have not received any SP member who has summited all the peaks.
I would try to do a small internet-research about that topic. I think once I saw a documentair about someone who went for all europe's highpoints in one year...so there is someone out there.
Ski Mountaineer - May 24, 2006 8:47 am - Hasn't voted
GeorgiaKazbek (the correct name is Mkinvartsveri anyways) is not the highest peak of Georgia. It is Shkhara, 5158 m or 5068 m. In any case the highest one in Georgia.
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/186306/shkhara.html
Cheers,
Peter
John Climber - May 24, 2006 3:52 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: GeorgiaThin Air,
I am awared of this issue. It is good that you give me your opinion. I understood (from my sources) that Shkara (with discussion over its height in any case) is mostly situated in Russia, therefore, the summit is in Russia. Is that true?
This list that I made goes about summits. If the summit is in Georgia I shoud correct it and change Mkinvartsveri for Shkhara. If the summit is in Russia I will leave as it is. When I did the list I had to take an objective system to choose the difficult cases (like this one) and I decided to choose for the summit criteria. Maybe you could help me with it. Thanks.
Corax - May 24, 2006 4:02 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: GeorgiaHi John C!
I agree with Thin Air about the Shkhara issue. It's on the border of Russia and Georgia.
See this section on the Shkhara page for ex.
John Climber - May 24, 2006 4:19 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: GeorgiaAs I understood, Shkhara summit falls into Georgian territory. Which height do you estimate for it from all those data?
I will do a big research as soon as I finish my exams. Then I will find all the exact facts and figures. Anycase, I am interested in your opinion.
Thank Corax (btw, I did not go to any China expedition...you remember? Thanks!)
Ski Mountaineer - May 24, 2006 6:03 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: GeorgiaJohn,
Shkhara is officially the highest peak of Georgia. It is on the Caucasus main crest, which the border Russia-Georgia.
The official elevation is 5158 m, though on maps "Gora Shkhara" (this does mean mountain Shkhara, not necessarily highest point) is assigned as 5068 m.
There is a surveyed point of 5157.8 m on the ridge, which should be the real Shkhara main. Every other elevation would have to be proven (not speculated).
The second highest is Janga-Tau (5058 m officially, 5085 m on other maps), not Mkinvartsveri either.
But besides - good idea, the list. Some rather interest peaks/facts on there.
Cheers,
Peter
Mblue01 - May 24, 2006 10:38 am - Hasn't voted
BotrangeAs you probably know the 'Botrange' is not really a mountain but more a small hill or 'higher plateau' so it will be difficult to find a real mountain-picture. You can take a look at the 'Signal de Botrange' page.
toc - May 24, 2006 5:55 pm - Voted 9/10
40eth row, counting from above......should read Serbia & Montenegro,
peak name Djeravica
Photo can be found over at
Prokletije Group (Djeravica is posted there as route)
Thumbs up & keep up the good work
(Edit, May 24th) now, please, just change "v" in "Servia"
into "b", so it does read "Serbia". Tnx
Tomek Lodowy - May 24, 2006 6:45 pm - Hasn't voted
Rysy - High Tatra (Poland/Slovakia)Rysy massif culminates in 3 summits . The main, middle one is 2503 m asl high and situated on Slovak side, the north-western summit(2499.2 m asl) - the highest point of Poland lies precisely on the Polish-Slovak borderline .
Greetings from Poland
Tomek
John Climber - May 24, 2006 9:25 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Rysy - High Tatra (Poland/Slovakia)Tomek,
Thanks for solving my doubt. I knew something was happening with those three summits. You were clarifying my doubts. Thanks. I will correct it a.s.a.p. Greetings
John Climber - May 25, 2006 11:34 am - Hasn't voted
Re: 40eth row, counting from above...toc,
thanks for your corrections. Everything should be right now!
toc - May 25, 2006 7:22 pm - Voted 9/10
Re: 40eth row, counting from above...Thanks John, sorry for nuisance (it is tongue twister, I know ;-))
John Climber - May 24, 2006 9:13 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Officially, Denmark'sThanks Lolli.
I knew about Faroe and about being an island, but I could not find the actual name of the mountain. Thanks.
Interesting info over Foroyar...It is Europe geographically, as far as I know.
spellbinder - Jun 13, 2006 9:46 am - Hasn't voted
SnezkaMt Snezka (Sniezka) is shared by Czech Republic and Poland
rpc - Jun 16, 2006 9:18 pm - Voted 10/10
Nice.I think the photos showing up with a red X in your table just need a simple fix *.jpg vs. *.JPG (case sensitivity)??
Great idea for a list page.
John Climber - Aug 14, 2006 10:21 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Nice.rpc, thanks for your comments. BTW, the JPG instead of jpg does not help to make the red x dissapear...?!!
jck - Jun 19, 2006 7:32 pm - Hasn't voted
Good ideaMaybe you should add links of the mountains that are in summitpost's data?
There are also some new pages as far as I know: f.e. Coma Pedrosa.
Regards
jck
Corax - Sep 6, 2006 12:29 pm - Hasn't voted
Is there anyone at allwho has summited all Europe's high points?
I started to think about that issue when I saw this section on the page.
John Climber - Sep 6, 2006 2:25 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Is there anyone at allIndeed...Americans have their States' Highpoints...with a group of people who accept the challenge to summit all of them. I thought that we could have the same in Europe. Nothing to compare with all those high peaks of Karakorum or China, but there is a challenge for europeans too, just next door. So far I have not received any SP member who has summited all the peaks.
I would try to do a small internet-research about that topic. I think once I saw a documentair about someone who went for all europe's highpoints in one year...so there is someone out there.
mvs - Oct 4, 2006 2:24 pm - Voted 10/10
manthat Ginge is pretty tough!
McCannster - Oct 5, 2006 11:40 pm - Voted 10/10
Liechtenstein High PointDid you know that Grauspitz is on SP. I noticed you didn't have a picture of it on the list.
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/151118/grauspitz.html