Thanks for that. The Jugal/Langtang thing has always confused me a bit as it appears to be virtually the same subrange. I'll make those changes you mention.
Great list, thank you for creating this page! Some comments:
"one of the 18 mountains designated as trekking peaks" The number should be 33 (18+15), no? (But you have 35 peaks listed on the page. Also the NMA mentions Lobuche West 6145m as a trekking peak as well. I could never figure out the 'correct' number of peaks designated as trekking peaks myself, different sources list different peaks and numbers.)
Based on the Nepa map and GE, correct summit location is about 1.4km further south at 27°56'39.26"N 86°50'21.32"E.
The coordinates given by the ministry of tourism (27°56'24" 86°50'24") do correspond to P5777m located about 1km further south. Edit: wrong coordinates given
Thanks BigLee for maintaining this list, but I think a few corrections are needed:
1) Number of peaks and classification
As Dmiki wrote, the total is 33, 15 belonging to group A and 18 belonging to group B.
You wrote "Group B consists of the original 15 trekking peaks and Group A consisits of a further 18 trekking peaks introduced in 2002". The number 15 and 18 should be inverted.
2) Lobuje West
Lobuje West, which belongs to the B group, is missing from the list.
Lobuje / Lobuche West, 27°58'9"N 86°46'57"E, altitude 6145m
3) Wrong coordinates
After a rapid check, it seems that several coordinates are wrong, some several hundred km off, some other are confusing minutes with decimal coordinates, some just a few hundred meters off.
Here what I hope are the correct ones (but without guaranty!):
Chukhung Ri (27°55'32" 86°52'45")
Yubra Himal (?28°6'27" 85°34'05")
Pharilapcha (aka Machermo) (27°55'44" 86°40'51")
Abi (27°59'5"N 86°43'9"E)
5) Ombigaichen
According to Himalayan Database, first ascent was on 18.11.1960 and not in 1962.
6) Larkya
Correct altitude should be 6249m and not 6010m.
7) Phari Papchi
You have this mountain in your list, as apparently belonging to the NMA-A group, but I can't find it anywhere. The altitude given (6017m) is also the same as Pharilapcha, so it is maybe a duplication. The coordinates also do not correspond to any peak in the Mahalangur Himal, but to Pisang Peak. I think you should remove it from the list.
8) Machermo (6237m or 6273m)
This peak appears in the NMA list (Group A) but not in your list. It is also listed in many trekking agencies websites, but most pictures of Machermo do represent Pharilapcha (6017m) (when not confusing with Parchamo).
According to the Himalayan Database, Machermo (or Machhermo) is just another name for Pharilapcha (6017m). Most expedition report do mention these two names.
So I guess that there is just a mistake by listing both Machermo (6237m) and Pharilapcha (6017m) in their "Group A" peaks, as it is most probably the same mountain, with the lowest altitude being the correct one.
The total number of so-called trekking peaks would be 14 (Groupe A) + 18 (Groupe B) = 32.
9) Table
It would be nice if all peaks would be presented in the same table format.
10) Spelling
It could be nice if the table could mention the alternative spellings used for the same peak, so that it would facilitate the search. E.g. from different maps, or from the NMA website:
http://www.nepalmountaineering.org/noticespage-13-NMA%20Peaks
Finally got around to making these changes. Let me know if any numbers still wrong. The original coordinates were off the Himalayan Index, which are not quite as accurate. Thanks.
Chhukung Ri is sometimes listed as a trekking peak, but apparently this is in error. Kyazo Ri 6186 meters is the actually peak that was supposed to be listed, but apparently someone goofed on the website (or so we were told). According to the National Park, you don't need a special permit for Chhukung Ri, in fact you can purchase a certificate for climbing it (we got one).
If you click on the link for Chhukung Ri on the Nepal Mountaineering Association, it actually links Kyazo Ri.
BigLee - Mar 7, 2007 11:24 am - Hasn't voted
Re: PaldorThanks for that. The Jugal/Langtang thing has always confused me a bit as it appears to be virtually the same subrange. I'll make those changes you mention.
dmiki - Mar 23, 2008 7:37 am - Voted 10/10
correctionsGreat list, thank you for creating this page! Some comments:
"one of the 18 mountains designated as trekking peaks" The number should be 33 (18+15), no? (But you have 35 peaks listed on the page. Also the NMA mentions Lobuche West 6145m as a trekking peak as well. I could never figure out the 'correct' number of peaks designated as trekking peaks myself, different sources list different peaks and numbers.)
http://www.nepalmountaineering.org/climbingregulation.php -> http://www.nepalmountaineering.org/index.php?razer=climbingregulation (2 broken links)
"Mardi Harmal" -> "Mardi Himal"
Hiuchuli -> Hiunchuli (I think this is the more common spelling)
Cherigo -> Chekijo (I think this is the more common spelling)
"Chuli East" -> "Chulu East"
Gokyo Peak should not be a child of this page, although it is a 'trekking' peak in the sense of the word, but does not require an NMA permit.
dmiki - Mar 23, 2008 8:19 am - Voted 10/10
Climbing gradesKusum Kanguru is D, Paldor is AD/AD+
Some more info.
Bruno - Aug 30, 2011 12:23 pm - Voted 10/10
Khongma Tse coordinatesBased on the Nepa map and GE, correct summit location is about 1.4km further south at 27°56'39.26"N 86°50'21.32"E.
The coordinates given by the ministry of tourism (27°56'24" 86°50'24") do correspond to P5777m located about 1km further south.
Edit: wrong coordinates given
Bruno - Sep 2, 2011 1:48 am - Voted 10/10
PharilapchaCoordinates (from Google Earth, crosschecked with map): 27°55'44"N 86°40'51"E
Apparently, all pictures posted by SP member reybelo are from the first ascent in 2003. Here another picture of Parilapcha from the South.
Bruno - Sep 24, 2011 6:25 am - Voted 10/10
Some corrrectionsThanks BigLee for maintaining this list, but I think a few corrections are needed:
1) Number of peaks and classification
As Dmiki wrote, the total is 33, 15 belonging to group A and 18 belonging to group B.
You wrote "Group B consists of the original 15 trekking peaks and Group A consisits of a further 18 trekking peaks introduced in 2002". The number 15 and 18 should be inverted.
2) Lobuje West
Lobuje West, which belongs to the B group, is missing from the list.
Lobuje / Lobuche West, 27°58'9"N 86°46'57"E, altitude 6145m
3) Wrong coordinates
After a rapid check, it seems that several coordinates are wrong, some several hundred km off, some other are confusing minutes with decimal coordinates, some just a few hundred meters off.
Here what I hope are the correct ones (but without guaranty!):
Thorong Ri (28°46'57"N 83°55'40"E)
Tharpu Chuli (28°33'44" 83°53'23")
Mardi Himal (28°28'31" 83°55'41")
Chekijo (27°54'23 86 24 48)
Mera Peak (27°42'33" 86°52'06")
Cholatse (27°55'11" 86°45'56")
Kusum Kanguru (27°43'51" 86°47'21")
Imja Tse (27°55'12" 86°56'5")
Lobuche East (27°57'32" 86°47'27)
Kongde (27°47'36" 86°38'32"E
Khongma Tse (27°56'39"86°50'21")
Pokalde (27°55'30" 86°50'04")
Yala (28°14'23" 85°37'34")
Tsergo Ri (28°12'47"N 85°36'3")
Kyajo Ri (27°54'31" 86°40'14")
Nirekha (27°58'38" 86°45'48")
Chulu East (28°44'9"N 84°2'3"E)
Chulu West (28°44'37"N 84°1'20"E)
Parchemuche / Pharchamo / Parchamo (27°50'11"N 86°32'50"E)
Ramdung (27°49'7"N 86°25'52"E)
Larkya (28°38'45"N 84°31'56"E)
4) Missing coordinates
Chukhung Ri (27°55'32" 86°52'45")
Yubra Himal (?28°6'27" 85°34'05")
Pharilapcha (aka Machermo) (27°55'44" 86°40'51")
Abi (27°59'5"N 86°43'9"E)
5) Ombigaichen
According to Himalayan Database, first ascent was on 18.11.1960 and not in 1962.
6) Larkya
Correct altitude should be 6249m and not 6010m.
7) Phari Papchi
You have this mountain in your list, as apparently belonging to the NMA-A group, but I can't find it anywhere. The altitude given (6017m) is also the same as Pharilapcha, so it is maybe a duplication. The coordinates also do not correspond to any peak in the Mahalangur Himal, but to Pisang Peak. I think you should remove it from the list.
8) Machermo (6237m or 6273m)
This peak appears in the NMA list (Group A) but not in your list. It is also listed in many trekking agencies websites, but most pictures of Machermo do represent Pharilapcha (6017m) (when not confusing with Parchamo).
According to the Himalayan Database, Machermo (or Machhermo) is just another name for Pharilapcha (6017m). Most expedition report do mention these two names.
So I guess that there is just a mistake by listing both Machermo (6237m) and Pharilapcha (6017m) in their "Group A" peaks, as it is most probably the same mountain, with the lowest altitude being the correct one.
The total number of so-called trekking peaks would be 14 (Groupe A) + 18 (Groupe B) = 32.
9) Table
It would be nice if all peaks would be presented in the same table format.
10) Spelling
It could be nice if the table could mention the alternative spellings used for the same peak, so that it would facilitate the search. E.g. from different maps, or from the NMA website:
http://www.nepalmountaineering.org/noticespage-13-NMA%20Peaks
BigLee - Jan 11, 2013 8:00 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Some corrrectionsFinally got around to making these changes. Let me know if any numbers still wrong. The original coordinates were off the Himalayan Index, which are not quite as accurate. Thanks.
Scott - Aug 20, 2013 2:47 pm - Hasn't voted
Chhukung RiBig Lee,
Chhukung Ri is sometimes listed as a trekking peak, but apparently this is in error. Kyazo Ri 6186 meters is the actually peak that was supposed to be listed, but apparently someone goofed on the website (or so we were told). According to the National Park, you don't need a special permit for Chhukung Ri, in fact you can purchase a certificate for climbing it (we got one).
If you click on the link for Chhukung Ri on the Nepal Mountaineering Association, it actually links Kyazo Ri.