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The Tian Shan > Pik Pobeda/Tomur Feng > Additions and Corrections
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| spellbinder | on name | |
Hasn't voted | The first, local name of the Pik Pobeda was Khan Tengri (the Lord of the Sky/Skies). It had already been used over 1000 years ago by the Uygur tribes living southwards from the mountain. The present-day Khan Tengri, located ~20 km northward, was called by the native tribes Kan-too (Mountain of the Blood/the Bloody Mountain). The first European who saw glittering marbles of Khan Tengri was PP Siemionov (later called 'Tien-Shanskij' to honour his achievments in exploration of this ranger). Having heard the name of the highest, majestic peak of this area (Khan Tengri) and thinking he was seeing it from the distance, he applied this name to the mountain the local guides called Kan-too. So the name Khan Tengri spread out. The further exploration focused on the present Khan Tengri (originally Kan-too) and the real,native names of these two majestic mountains faded away. | |
| Posted Nov 24, 2007 1:46 pm | ||
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| BigLee | Re: on name | |
Hasn't voted | Sorry, but Pobeda was never called Khan Tengri. Where did you read this? It's common knowledge that the "Lord of the Skies" is and always has been Khan Tengri due to its shape and beauty. My references are based on AAJ articles, Simon Yates' accounts and this website. I've not had a chance to rebuild the Pobeda page yet since Corax & myself adopted it from another maintainer. When I do, it will look more like the current Khan Tengri page in style. Thanks | |
| Posted Nov 24, 2007 2:20 pm | ||
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| Corax | Re: on name | |
Hasn't voted | Thanks for the comment/input. Interesting. I have never heard anything about what you say either, but to be honest I have no clue about the origin of the name, so I stay out of this discussion. | |
| Posted Nov 24, 2007 2:48 pm | ||
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| spellbinder | Re: on name | |
Hasn't voted | Well, my source is a Polish book about first attempts on some of the remarkable peaks, however the language can be a problem here :) I do not say that Khan Tengri is not called Khan Tengri. :) As SP page of this mountain says, it is also called (in Kazah) Kan Tau which means "Blood Mountain" (due to marbles glittering in the sunset). It often happened that names were mixed and local ones, if ever existed, were forgotten as those given by the West-men spread out I submited this info just as a curiosity | |
| Posted Nov 25, 2007 5:33 pm | ||
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| Corax | Re: on name | |
Hasn't voted | I find this kind of info, the one about origin of names etc is interesting. Thanks! | |
| Posted Nov 25, 2007 5:42 pm | ||
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| BigLee | Re: on name | |
Hasn't voted | Thanks. Yes, it's amazing how many peaks there are that have been renamed even though they had a perfectly acceptable local name. | |
| Posted Nov 25, 2007 6:19 pm | ||
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