DON'T DIE OUT THERE !!

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DON'T DIE OUT THERE !!

by RayMondo » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:34 pm

Even one dying of avalanche is enough, but the numbers are now getting tragic. I'm not a spoil sport, and I love the big stuff, but it's time to cut the risk. Conditions just ain't right. Stay away from the risk and live for another day.

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by WouterB » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:04 am

+1, we returned home from the alps on the 25th as conditions just weren't right. Meanwhile there's been quite a lot of accidents and deaths at the places we intended to visit.

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by albanberg » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:10 am

Good job WouterB!

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by Deltaoperator17 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:51 am

Here is a TR from an Idaho regarding Avy danger. They were right in the middle of it... Whump, Whump... erie!

http://margolasky.blogspot.com/2010/01/ ... ntain.html

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by Hotfeet » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:04 am

Great job bringing this up! I think your reminder is needed and appreciated. Good work!!!

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by Pivvay » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:15 am

And even if you very luckily walk away, it still sucks. I'm three months out from breaking my ankle and still healing. My partner is still healing as well. Avi'd on October 5th.

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by Mark Straub » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:52 am

I wish beacons weren't so expensive, it takes me 2 months worth of work just to pay for one. But I don't want to die.

-Mark

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by MoapaPk » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:54 am

Pivvay wrote:And even if you very luckily walk away, it still sucks. I'm three months out from breaking my ankle and still healing. My partner is still healing as well. Avi'd on October 5th.


Good wishes for healing! I had just a grade 2 sprain, and that sucked. Made me think how vulnerable I was.

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by lcarreau » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:35 am

I think we're all "vulnerable" to the conditions that exist out there.

Just like we're vulnerable to getting ran over by a beer truck on our way back to the city.

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by mconnell » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:35 pm

Mark Straub wrote:I wish beacons weren't so expensive, it takes me 2 months worth of work just to pay for one. But I don't want to die.

-Mark


A beacon won't keep you alive. You should definitely have one and travel with people that know how to use them, but staying out of a slide is a much better way to stay alive. (Since I usually travel solo, I don't bother with one, but I'm old and senile.)

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by xDoogiex » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:43 pm

Icy roads mean more beer trucks sliding around

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by drpw » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:13 pm

"The mountain will still be there tomorrow. Will you?"

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by Andinistaloco » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:00 pm

mconnell wrote:
Mark Straub wrote:I wish beacons weren't so expensive, it takes me 2 months worth of work just to pay for one. But I don't want to die.

-Mark


A beacon won't keep you alive. You should definitely have one and travel with people that know how to use them, but staying out of a slide is a much better way to stay alive. (Since I usually travel solo, I don't bother with one, but I'm old and senile.)


Agreed. Thinking a beacon is likely to save you is like saying that since you have a cell phone you won't die climbing.

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by MarthaP » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:50 pm

Pivvay wrote:And even if you very luckily walk away, it still sucks. I'm three months out from breaking my ankle and still healing. My partner is still healing as well. Avi'd on October 5th.



ACCCCCKKKK! Piv, I'm sorry to hear this! :cry: Heal quickly, heal thoroughly and get back out there. Bike racing season is coming up...

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by Mark Straub » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:00 pm

No, a beacon is not going to save me. I know that. I am very cautious, bordering on paranoid, about avalanche signs. Avoidance is the best answer. If I see any signs at all of potential powder or slab avalanches, I take very careful notice.

BUT...isn't it a good idea to err on the side of caution? As I said, I DON'T want to die out there!

-Mark

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