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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby Guyzo » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:48 pm

The $$$$$$$ from the plane primed the pump of the modern american climbing gear manufacturer. We would still be climbing in EB's, pounding in pins, using leather packs, scoring climbing clothes at the goodwill and driving around in old VW vans if this plane had not gone down when and where it did.

Ricknie...please tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. If it's about drug running and the old days lots of people will want one. Can I get one soaked in gasolene and dried out?
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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby ShortTimer » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:30 am

You already had one soaked in gasolene and dried out! Oh, that's right, you can never have enough.
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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby Ricknie » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:59 am

Guyzo...you might be on to something. I can see a book that looks like its been tossed around and even a page or two with avgas/engine oil stains.

The purpose of this book is just that Guyzo, the truth.

"And the Truth will set ye free!"

LOL
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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby Guyzo » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:48 pm

Ricknie......give out a pack of rolling papers that have been soaked in H2o from the lake and 110 octaine AV gas....then some of the readers can experience the "AIRPLANE."

ShortTimer. "To much is just enuf"

All this talk about the "good old days" brings to mind
"The Oliver Moon Hotel"..........
and thoughts about Oliver...is he still around?
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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby Ricknie » Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:26 am

Guyzo..check your mail
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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby Ricknie » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:07 am

Its been a while since I posted any update on this board.

So far I've interviewed almost two dozen people that were directly or indirectly involved in the crash. Climbers, SAR, Park employees, Rangers. They all have some great stories that for the most part will, at least I think they will, provide some enjoyable reading as well as some giggles about what went on back then.

And by the way, the story about the famous "Black Book"...well, some are true and some are pure bunk. The real story is more humorous than evil.

People are still contacting me by either email or via phone to tell of their stories.

Please, anyone out there that might want to tell some, let me know. If you know of anyone that was there then, pass my contact info on to them.

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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby jibmaster » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:31 pm

Alpinist mag did a fictional story spanning several issues that
is based on the facts of which you speak.
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Re: 1977 Yosemite Plane Crash

Postby Ricknie » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:03 pm

I've read both the article in Alpinist as well as Jeff Long's book, Lynn Hill's "Climbing Free", John Long's "Long on Adventure". I also found a three year old thread on ST.

Since Jeff's novel was just that, a novel, he took things to a level that although nicely written, it was not even close to what the real story was. I've talked to the auther of the Alpinist story, Kief Hlilsbery.

Thanks for the tips though.
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Postby Arthur Digbee » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:52 pm

Nevada Barr has a (fictionalized) murder mystery built around this incident -- she even uses the same lake. It's called (ahem) High Country.
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Postby Wallylongridge » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:41 pm

i was living in the Valley at that time. Funny, i don't remember a thing. I guess its true what they say about POT .
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Postby Ricknie » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:23 am

Well its now been almost 2 1/2 years since I started my research on this subject. I honestly thought in April of 2005 that I 'd have the book finished and published for that up coming Christmas. As it turned out I am contacted at least three or four times each week with either more information, new information, or contradicting information.

An interesting example about the four guys that found the plane. Well the first four names that I received were never there. And, all four are still living, live and large as we speak. I've interviewed two of them within the past handful of months.

The plane was never what the Feds thought it was. Many would think that wouldn't matter, but in fact the plane was a highly modified WW II submarine hunter/killer. Its capabilities far out stretched a Lockheed Lodestar both in size and in performance.

I've managed to find the #2 guy in the drug group. He consented to a audio taped interview which lasted about four hours. He was responsible for staging the dope, acting as load master, and paying the pilot(s) (there were more than a dozen planes used). So he knew exactly how much dope was on board the plane when it crashed.

Right now I'm about 90% complete with my research. I'm still waiting for some paper work on the WW II history of the plane. I'm also going up to the lake and take some shots of the area as well as the trail where Jack Dorn fell from.

So stay tuned.....and if you have any thoughts, drop me an email.
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Postby Wallylongridge » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:22 am

would one be M. C.
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Postby Ricknie » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:01 pm

Wallylongridge wrote:would one be M. C.


Wally you'll have to be a less crptic. Say....which paragraph are you referring to?
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Postby Ricknie » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:06 am

squishy wrote:Is all the information not coinciding because people don't want to talk about it, or because they talked to much and made most of it up?


First off its not all of the information. For the most part everyone has been very honest and forth coming, very helpful and down right friendly. However, and here comes the bomb, there have been a few that have told me stories that just don't add up. I'm not just talking about the climbers that made their way up to the lake. From the film industry to the drug organization to law enforcement, there have been stories that contradict each other and in some cases can't be supported by documented facts. So when I find this rather than discount it I ask myself, "Why is this so important to this person to tell the story the way they have"? It has now become part of the book. Whether it is misdirection on purpose or just due to +30 years of trying to remember what took place, it still is part of the story.
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