Autoxfil wrote:I have not used the Fusion, but I've used new Vipers and new and old Cobras. I personally would not take a mixed tool like that for alpine use. I like having a hammer and something to piolet cane/self-belay with.
The new Laser picks are great. They get beat up quickly on rocky alpine climbs, but they stick very well for pure ice.
The Vipers are great and cheap. The new Cobras won't get your hands quite as cold and feel more "damp" on the swing, but the Viper is only 1oz heavier and climbs very much the same. The new Android leashes are very nice as well, but I prefer leashless and tethers. I made my own full-strength tethers which are very versatile - I can plant my axes and be off belay if they are solid, or clip them off my tools and into an anchor, etc.
I like dual hammers. You can really get by without an adze easily, using the pick and hammer to clear bad ice for screws.
albanberg wrote: EMS has a sale on the Cobras but they only have the hammers.
climbxclimb wrote:BD tools are very heavy compared to other tools to be used for alpine climbing....You should check the Grivel Quantum Light, the Petzl Aztarex, or the Petzl Aztar. The Quantum Light and Aztar climb waterfall ice very well also.
By the way I am selling a pair of Petzl Aztar, if you are interested send me a pm.
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