by SpiderSavage » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:50 pm
by pyerger » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:09 pm
by pyerger » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:11 pm
by fatdad » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:27 pm
sharperblue wrote:Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:There is NOTHING better than alpine rock climbing.
precisely! thank you!
by Hotoven » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:38 pm
fatdad wrote: IMHO gyms are pretty close to being worthless.
by Jukka Ahonen » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:41 pm
fatdad wrote:You need to learn to climb rock, however, No big plastic holds in the mountains. Lots of good cragging in the UK. Take a lesson and learn on the real thing. The gym is just a place to get fit. Unless you have an underlying skill set on the real thing, IMHO gyms are pretty close to being worthless.
by Andinistaloco » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:42 pm
by SpiderSavage » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:32 pm
by James_W » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:55 pm
Dingus Milktoast wrote:I don't understand the dichotomy of your view. Rock climbing IS mountaineering. Yes of course it benefits - increased skills. I have never understood this notion very well of incomplete mountaineers.
Skiing, rock climbing, ice climbing, bouldering, aid climbing, free climbing, hiking up a slag heap - its ALL mountaineering.