by ExcitableBoy » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:16 pm
by bird » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:45 pm
ExcitibleBoy wrote:I have never seen a any side by side studies evaluating the effectiveness of Crossfit verses traditional training methods. My guess is if one put as much effort into traditional workout methods they would achieve the same or better results than Crossfit.
by ExcitableBoy » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:29 pm
bird wrote:ExcitibleBoy wrote:I have never seen a any side by side studies evaluating the effectiveness of Crossfit verses traditional training methods. My guess is if one put as much effort into traditional workout methods they would achieve the same or better results than Crossfit.
I'd strongly disagree with this on two levels. First, time. Since many/most CF routines take 10 - 20 minutes (with a few notable exceptions), I don't believe that anyone could get the same fitness doing traditional methods in the same time. Second, traditional (I'm using the term as referring to weight machines, etc) methods don't lend themselves to intensity.
Anecdotally, I did tradition workouts (30 minute run followed by 45 minutes of bench, curls, machines whatever and my fitness made a quantum leap due to crossfit.
by bird » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:37 pm
ExcitibleBoy wrote:bird wrote:ExcitibleBoy wrote:I have never seen a any side by side studies evaluating the effectiveness of Crossfit verses traditional training methods. My guess is if one put as much effort into traditional workout methods they would achieve the same or better results than Crossfit.
I'd strongly disagree with this on two levels. First, time. Since many/most CF routines take 10 - 20 minutes (with a few notable exceptions), I don't believe that anyone could get the same fitness doing traditional methods in the same time. Second, traditional (I'm using the term as referring to weight machines, etc) methods don't lend themselves to intensity.
Anecdotally, I did tradition workouts (30 minute run followed by 45 minutes of bench, curls, machines whatever and my fitness made a quantum leap due to crossfit.
You basically proved my point. Before you were doing very easy workouts. Now you are doing more intense workouts and you consider yourself to me more fit. That is comparing apples to oranges. If you had upped the difficulty of your old workouts you very well have made the same gains as cross fit.
Anecdotally, I am a short, fat, asthmatic, 40 something year old with a significant immunodeficiency. I do traditional workouts (a bit of running and weight lifting). I did Liberty Ridge in 30 hours car to car. You are a Cross Fit disciple and it took you how long to climb Liberty Ridge? 5 Days? Just saying.
by ExcitableBoy » Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:41 pm
bird wrote:and if the trip pans out I'll be needing a partner!
by albanberg » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:58 pm
by thelisa » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:05 pm
by Augie Medina » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:45 am
thelisa wrote: I am having a hard time giving up ALL starchy carbs - I need my boiled potatoes with salt on long runs!!
by Wastral » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:11 pm
Mountain Impulse wrote:]thelisa wrote: I am having a hard time giving up ALL starchy carbs - I need my boiled potatoes with salt on long runs!!
Yep, on multi-hour training runs you still need carbs that get into your system real quick like baked or boiled potatoes. Of course gel pacs are an option but it's nice to have the variety of "real food" when you're out there for hours.
by CClaude » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:49 pm
thelisa wrote:This is a great discussion guys. I am adding my 2 cents because I recently started going to my local Crossfit affiliate to supplement to my ultrarunning and climbing. The best way to train for any sport is to do it, of course, especially climbing since it involves good technique, not just 'generic' strength and endurance.
However, I find the variety and intensity of Crossfit exercises are improving my core strength, coordination and upper body strength, which in turn benefit my climbing.
I used to do regular gym workouts and was well self-motivated, but never trained with a personal trainer. The Crossfit method of group workouts under the eye of an instructor really appeals to me, to my surprise. Group ratios are usually small enough that it is akin to having a personal trainer giving expert advice. Not to mention pushing you to get 5 more box jumps before time is up
Crossfit also emphasizes the need for a healthy diet to complement and support the workouts - either the Zone Diet or the Paleo diet. They are worth looking into for those concerned with weight loss but personally I am having a hard time giving up ALL starchy carbs - I need my boiled potatoes with salt on long runs!!
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