by colinr » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:31 am
by KathyW » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:33 pm
SeanReedy wrote:Noondueler wrote:I remember being there in '98 and it was $1.75 which seem equally as high then as the pic above. Bridgeport to my knowledge is the highest in the eastern Sierra. Usually about a dollar pg more than the cheepest stations in the central valley.Bob Burd wrote:Furnace Creek last week:
They say it's hard to get the Techron to remain stable below sea level, thus the increased cost.
Yep, for the Eastern Sierra coming from the north, get your fuel somewhere between Reno and Gardnerville along the 395 and try to avoid getting fuel again until Bishop. Coming from the west/Central Valley, when the passes are open, top off in the lower foothills. Generally, Bridgeport will be most expensive with better prices the farther south one travels.
http://www.gasbuddy.com/
As far as Death Valley, top off in Ridgecest (and/or possibly elsewhere along 395 if heading in from farther north; no fuel in Trona right now). Fill up in Beatty, NV if you have reason to be anywhere near it (e.g. Titus Canyon area) and are doing a lot of driving in DVNP. Compared to buying fuel inside the park, I saved enough money on fuel in Beatty last month to pay for the only sit down restaurant meal of the trip (family of four). BTW, rumor has it that sometimes Stovepipe Wells is cash only (credit card system was down recently). Similarly, buy fuel near the Nevada border if heading to the eastern edges of Mojave National Preserve.
We traveled to DV and back 4-5 weeks ago while prices were rising most quickly. I'm hoping it will only be a bit more costly if we go back for spring break. It was fun to see then, and now, that I would pay less per gallon for diesel than for gasoline at Furnace Creek. I haven't seen that situation much, if at all, over the past few years anywhere I've been. At the same time, I avoided buying diesel there. I've been paying attention to this stuff because our method of travel on long family trips uses 3 times the amount of fuel as my more efficient sedan, but has allowed us to visit and hike in places we wouldn't have otherwise experienced.
All this talk of travel and diesel reminds me of a song:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHRg_iSWzM[/youtube]
by Vitaliy M. » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:02 am
WML wrote:Kerstin wrote:The cheapest gas I know of between Carson City and Bishop is at the Topaz Lake casino.
Incorrect, AM/PM in Gardnerville (either one) and a few other g-ville places have cheaper gas than Topaz. Gas up there and you will cruise into Bishop to enjoy the Paiute Palace's relatively cheap gas.
by KathyW » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:52 pm
butitsadryheat wrote:KathyW wrote:The station wagon only got about 10 mpg and if you adjust the price of gas for inflation you have to wonder if we're really spending much more today on gas than we were back then.
without spikes, here:
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm
another view...
http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/gasoline/gasoline_cpi_adjusted.html
seems we are paying more now than then
by lcarreau » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:55 pm
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by ScottHanson » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:48 pm
by colinr » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:47 pm
ScottHanson wrote:Excellent point Roberto. If gas is $2.55 a liter in Italy and there are 3.7853 liters per gallon, then the effective gas price in Italy is $9.65. Yikes! Maybe Americans are spoiled? My guess is you have smaller more efficient cars in Italy with gas prices near $10 per gallon. Worldwide we have two issues: 1. Americans (and maybe other countries too) have an inelastic demand for gas (we don't decrease quantity as price rises) and 2. as emerging economies like China and India grow a larger middle class they will naturally desire more goods (like cars) and services. Hence increased demand for oil derivatives like gas, jet fuel, etc.
All of this makes me wonder if people will continue to drive long distances to visit National Parks and climb remote peaks?
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