JonBradford - Feb 8, 2004 7:27 pm - Voted 10/10
You are right.It is not realy a road. I can't imagine people enjoy driving it. I kind of wish the Forest Service would close it to vehicles and let it become a hiking path.
nmmi9100 - Aug 22, 2005 9:07 am - Hasn't voted
Typical Elitist HikerTypical elitist hiker jibberish. This is one of the few tough 4wd roads still open in Colorado. Public Domain land is about multiple use for everyone, not just for those of us blessed with the ability to hike. Close these roads and folks without the physical ability to hike are barred from viewing this beautiful country. Try to think about others for a change and not just yourself.
-David McInnis
Climber, Hiker, Hunter
Edgewood, NM
nmmi9100 - Aug 30, 2005 4:33 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Typical Elitist HikerWhile I appreciate your agreement, I again feel that there is an elitist tone to your response. Who are you to judge that people should have to stay in shape and behave in a particular way to access our public lands? Aren't they taxpayers as well that support these precious assets of the United States? These lands are the property of the public and the public ought to have the right to use them regardless of whether or not they are couch potatoes. Thankfully, I learned this weekend that sometime in the last few years the county laid claim to Como Lake Road making it a public road open motorized access in perpetuity.
Scott - Aug 30, 2005 5:31 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: Typical Elitist HikerWho are you to judge that people should have to stay in shape and behave in a particular way to access our public lands?
They are costing me tons of money in health insurance. It is an undisputable fact that most preventable medical cost comes from smoking and lack of physical activity. Any out of shape couch poatoes are costing ME money. They are costing me extra money for plane tickets. What gives them the right to do this and force me to pay for their lifestyle? They are the elitist. I have every right to to express an opinion on how they should behave (just as they can express their opinion), especially since it is hitting me in the pocket book. They are the elitist. If fat ---'s were denied medical insurance, and wouldn't force the rest of us to pay for their lazyness, then my views might be different.
These lands are the property of the public and the public ought to have the right to use them regardless of whether or not they are couch potatoes.
They still can and should use them. Couch potatoes could use the excersize. Our country desperately needs it. It is their choice if they want to use them or not. Of course, my views do not extend to those who have a valid excuse for not being able to walk.
b. - Aug 30, 2005 6:46 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Typical Elitist HikerSo all it takes is the ability to walk to be elite? F*@K YEA!! I'm elite!! Yahoo!!
miztflip - Aug 30, 2005 11:43 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Typical Elitist HikerYou obviously didn't read my post or you would have noted that I agree that all should have use of such lands.
It also appears that it is you that is judging by labeling people elitist based on your expert ability to detect "tone" from a simple post.
Don't make it sound like these "people" are some poor helpless individuals that only have the ability to access the outdoors is via motorized travel. That just happens to be the way they choose to see it. It's a hobby just like hiking or anything else.
More power to them. If me or anyone else doesn't like it we have plenty of other places to go and hike.
Steve Larson - Aug 31, 2005 12:03 am - Hasn't voted
Re: You are right.It looks like fun to me! There aren't many roads like it around, so I'd prefer to see it remain open to vehicular travel.
Corax - Aug 31, 2005 4:19 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Typical Elitist HikerRight on Scott!
Tie-Dye Mike - Apr 14, 2006 7:51 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Typical Elitist HikerThank you Scott!!! I myself am disabled, but am still able to walk, yet, this disability does not stop my dream, and attepts at climbing all 50 H.P.'s.
AND even if I am unable to walk in the future, even wheelchair bound, there are trails here in MT that wheelchair accessable and paid for by ALL taxpayers, which allow access to beautiful waterfalls. I myself feel that even being wheelchair bound, I would not choose to 4X4 to my destination, destroying the habitat , and envioroment.
Scott - Apr 15, 2006 1:16 am - Voted 10/10
Re: Typical Elitist HikerThanks for the comment. You might be interested that Colorado has a similar program. It is called "Wilderness on Wheels" and is where there are a bunch of mountain trails with wheelchair access.
It might make a nice addition to SP, but I have never been there myself.
Tie-Dye Mike - Apr 15, 2006 8:16 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Typical Elitist HikerThese trails also existing in CO, just proves the point, NO 4X4 is needed to "access" beautiful places. Its more a matter of will, and determination of the individual to get there.
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