Thanks! To take your question seriously: yes there are. You have the huts and refuges where you can get simple food and of course in the villages you have whatever you would like to have. This might look like it is in the middle of nowhere but Val di Fassa, the valley to the west of the group is rather touristish. Around 5 p.m. you barely get through the villages with your car due to the traffic. In Moena they employ three policemen (rather women 2:1) to control traffic on a stretch of about 800 yards.
Back to food: the typical food is not pizza or pasta but Speck (bacon) and mushrooms. Needless to say that you can get your pizza with both.
Hmmmm, sounds good to me. Say, any good Mexican food in the area. Climbing always makes me want either Italian or Mexican food. Nah, what a Klenke like question. : )
No, Mexican is out of the question. As is anything else but local or Italian. I have had a discussion with gabriele.roth about the language here. Though belonging to Italy people speak Ladinian, an old rhaetic language. We have tried to find out how the summits are spelled but it seems that in each valley the pronounciation - and thus the spelling - differs. And young people seem to use the modern (=Italian) pronounciation, while old people stick to pure Ladinian.
So - if you ever happen to get to the Dolomites - enjoy the local food. Don't think of any fancy Mexican Chimchanga...
First class work, as usual. You are a pano specialist...As you are probably working with a digital camera, how do you manage to avoid optical distorsions between each view ? (what focal do you use ?)
Gangolf Haub - Aug 11, 2005 12:58 am - Hasn't voted
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Thanks Claude! Actually the most difficult challenge in putting up this page were the names of the summits. They are Ladinian and Gabriele and I have had a long discussion about them. It seems that in the different valleys names are pronounced and spelled differently and I have used the Badia spelling instead of the Fassa one :-(
As for the panos I use a Nikon CP 5700 digicam and PanoramaMaker 3.0 to stitch them. Since the camera has a zoom I actually don't know what the focal length was for this Pano. Anyway for the submission to SP I cut the pano in 650 x nnn pieces again and use a bit of fancy html to make them appear in one piece (thanks to Brendon for the fany html).
Great page again, Gangolf! Yes, it's a good decision to do the whole Vallaccia group at once. When we were skiing here in February, I didn't take a single shot of this nice group :-(
Gangolf Haub - Aug 11, 2005 8:36 am - Hasn't voted
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Thanks Vid! I think I took more than enough photos so it is not too serious that you didn't take any. Maybe next time.
This one struck close to home, since in my now distant youth I spent a few summer vacations at the foot of Piz Meda. As usual, you have written a wonderful page, and the photographs are super as well.
I was intrigued by the scree-filled gully that you ascended. Sixty degrees would exceed the angle of repose of scree in most cases. It also means that if you stand erect and stretch your arm forward you touch the slope in front of you. Was it really that steep? Wow! I haven't seen it and therefore I only speculate, but here in Colorado there are several snow routes that are in condition when the snow has consolidated (no avalanche danger) but become almost impassable once the snow melts because of the underlying scree. I wonder whether that could be the case also for the "Gangolf Couloir"...
Thanks Fabio. You are right about the couloir. Vid had doubts as well and I checked out my GPS track - its 44° from base to Forcella with steeper parts in between. But we were moving left and right sometimes getting close to the walls, where there was less scree but some climbing as well. And - the thing is so narrow that the GPS receiver lost the satellite signals where it was steepest. Let's settle for 45°.
Could I touch the ground in front of myself? Hard to say since I had to keep moving. But probably not.
Gangolf Haub - Aug 13, 2005 4:23 am - Hasn't voted
Mille grazie Livio! You don't need to hurry with your slides. For the moment we can get by with the few we have :-) But I'm interested anyway - where have you been? Buffaure, or Val di San Nicolò, or even up on Sas da le Undesh (sc)?
Gangolf Haub - Aug 10, 2005 3:40 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks! To take your question seriously: yes there are. You have the huts and refuges where you can get simple food and of course in the villages you have whatever you would like to have. This might look like it is in the middle of nowhere but Val di Fassa, the valley to the west of the group is rather touristish. Around 5 p.m. you barely get through the villages with your car due to the traffic. In Moena they employ three policemen (rather women 2:1) to control traffic on a stretch of about 800 yards.
Back to food: the typical food is not pizza or pasta but Speck (bacon) and mushrooms. Needless to say that you can get your pizza with both.
Dean - Aug 10, 2005 5:34 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentHmmmm, sounds good to me. Say, any good Mexican food in the area. Climbing always makes me want either Italian or Mexican food. Nah, what a Klenke like question. : )
Gangolf Haub - Aug 10, 2005 6:16 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentNo, Mexican is out of the question. As is anything else but local or Italian. I have had a discussion with gabriele.roth about the language here. Though belonging to Italy people speak Ladinian, an old rhaetic language. We have tried to find out how the summits are spelled but it seems that in each valley the pronounciation - and thus the spelling - differs. And young people seem to use the modern (=Italian) pronounciation, while old people stick to pure Ladinian.
So - if you ever happen to get to the Dolomites - enjoy the local food. Don't think of any fancy Mexican Chimchanga...
Claude Mauguier - Aug 10, 2005 11:42 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentFirst class work, as usual. You are a pano specialist...As you are probably working with a digital camera, how do you manage to avoid optical distorsions between each view ? (what focal do you use ?)
Gangolf Haub - Aug 11, 2005 12:58 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Claude! Actually the most difficult challenge in putting up this page were the names of the summits. They are Ladinian and Gabriele and I have had a long discussion about them. It seems that in the different valleys names are pronounced and spelled differently and I have used the Badia spelling instead of the Fassa one :-(
As for the panos I use a Nikon CP 5700 digicam and PanoramaMaker 3.0 to stitch them. Since the camera has a zoom I actually don't know what the focal length was for this Pano. Anyway for the submission to SP I cut the pano in 650 x nnn pieces again and use a bit of fancy html to make them appear in one piece (thanks to Brendon for the fany html).
Kenzo Okawa - Aug 11, 2005 8:03 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentI respect for your lot of fine works!
Gangolf Haub - Aug 11, 2005 8:33 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks a lot, Kenzo!
Vid Pogachnik - Aug 11, 2005 8:31 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentGreat page again, Gangolf! Yes, it's a good decision to do the whole Vallaccia group at once. When we were skiing here in February, I didn't take a single shot of this nice group :-(
Gangolf Haub - Aug 11, 2005 8:36 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Vid! I think I took more than enough photos so it is not too serious that you didn't take any. Maybe next time.
brenta - Aug 11, 2005 12:39 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentThis one struck close to home, since in my now distant youth I spent a few summer vacations at the foot of Piz Meda. As usual, you have written a wonderful page, and the photographs are super as well.
I was intrigued by the scree-filled gully that you ascended. Sixty degrees would exceed the angle of repose of scree in most cases. It also means that if you stand erect and stretch your arm forward you touch the slope in front of you. Was it really that steep? Wow! I haven't seen it and therefore I only speculate, but here in Colorado there are several snow routes that are in condition when the snow has consolidated (no avalanche danger) but become almost impassable once the snow melts because of the underlying scree. I wonder whether that could be the case also for the "Gangolf Couloir"...
Gangolf Haub - Aug 11, 2005 2:01 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Fabio. You are right about the couloir. Vid had doubts as well and I checked out my GPS track - its 44° from base to Forcella with steeper parts in between. But we were moving left and right sometimes getting close to the walls, where there was less scree but some climbing as well. And - the thing is so narrow that the GPS receiver lost the satellite signals where it was steepest. Let's settle for 45°.
Could I touch the ground in front of myself? Hard to say since I had to keep moving. But probably not.
Gangolf Haub - Aug 13, 2005 4:23 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks VERY much!
livioz - Sep 5, 2005 8:09 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled Commentas soon as possible, I'll look for my old slides of the '80s.
With compliments!
Gangolf Haub - Sep 5, 2005 8:35 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentMille grazie Livio! You don't need to hurry with your slides. For the moment we can get by with the few we have :-) But I'm interested anyway - where have you been? Buffaure, or Val di San Nicolò, or even up on Sas da le Undesh (sc)?