Graçias Vid. I must say I was intrigued by the stories about the tsunami and I wondered which part of the island was about to collapse. So when I returned I googled a little and found a lot of pages about this theory. Very interesting if you have been there...
Yes, after the recent tsunami disaster in Asia I saw a film about this theory on TV. With all computer animations etc. It was very convincing, showing this island as a great potential threat.
Well, the fact is, the thread it potential! Noone knows when - or even if - this collapse will happen. It would be quite a pity. La Palma is a very beautiful island (like Madeira in some respects).
Very interesting and well-done page! The mega tsunami part was particularly interesting to me since geologists have confirmed that such events have occurred many times in the history of the Hawaiian Islands too. One such event on the south west flank of Mauna Loa caused a wave that washed completely over at least one of the 1,500'+ neighboring islands. I have been to the site of that slide on the Kona Coast and seeing first hand the massive bite it took out of the island is most impressive. Even now, there is a huge 50 to 100 foot wide ten-mile long crack developing between Kilauea and Mauna Loa. I've hiked for miles along it and it's also an awesome feature. It is very difficult to get to so probably few are aware of it but it's worth the effort. Let's hope that when the next event occurs, everyone has enough warning to get out in time!
The Canaries look interesting - I hope you can add some more.
Thanks Don. Everybody seemed to know La Palma when I said I would be going there. They told me about the theory and I remembered having read something about in in Newsweek a couple of years ago. On the island I wondered where this landslide would possibly take place but couldn't find any sign. So after returning I looked it up on Google. I have not been aware of any crack on the Cumbre Vieja Range but we hiked half of it in foggy conditions. However, the similarities between Hawaii and the Canaries are quite striking. But as far as I know on Hawaii the lavas are even more fluid then they usually are on La Palma. When Teneguía erupted it was an affair to which they took the schoolkids by the busload. When San Juan, Birigoyo and Hoya Negra erupted simultaneously in 1949 apart from the earthquakes only the large lava streams caused trouble.
Will I post some more? You bet! I think in the end I'll post about a dozen summits
I've had some time now to study your excellent photos and see that the island of La Palma also has an appearant rift zone (judging from the map). This looks like the area south of the main peak of Kilauea, Hawaii and also like the area south of the main summit of Mauna Loa. On your map, there is a broad arc south of the erosion crater that looks somewhat like the area on Mauna Loa that fell into the sea thousands of years ago creating the mega-tsunami. Here's one of the pics on my Haleakala page that shows some the summit erosion crater: Photo
Here's another view that shows the whole crater: Photo
I must say, though - La Palma's crater is somewhat bigger and that's saying a lot!
dn
Gangolf Haub - Mar 16, 2005 1:21 am - Hasn't voted
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That part south of the caldera - the Cumbre Nueva - indeed is the remainder of a giant crater. Also, there is a similar history on El Hierro (100000 years ago), wher a large chunk slid into the sea. The Kilauea shots look like the Canadas del Teide on Tenerife and - you guessed it - tells the same story. Always the landslides occurred on the western side of the islands.
Grazie Mark. You seem to have developped a taste for Italian! After all - looking back - the gale added to our mountaineering experiences. Like climbing a ferrata in a thunderstorm or finding ourselves on a 50° slope covered with ice. Once you get over the shock it actually becomes quite a nice experience.
Gangolf Haub - Mar 8, 2005 12:35 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Rob!
Joseph Bullough - Mar 8, 2005 5:09 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentYou must hire a staff to do your research! Excellent job as aways....
Gangolf Haub - Mar 9, 2005 2:06 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Joseph. I must admit that it's just googling....
Tim Vossenberg - Mar 9, 2005 11:19 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentGood job!
Tim
Gangolf Haub - Mar 9, 2005 3:31 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Tim, for all the votes.
Vid Pogachnik - Mar 9, 2005 2:56 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentExcellent reading, Gangolf! And pictures too.
Gangolf Haub - Mar 9, 2005 3:37 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentGraçias Vid. I must say I was intrigued by the stories about the tsunami and I wondered which part of the island was about to collapse. So when I returned I googled a little and found a lot of pages about this theory. Very interesting if you have been there...
Vid Pogachnik - Mar 9, 2005 4:22 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentYes, after the recent tsunami disaster in Asia I saw a film about this theory on TV. With all computer animations etc. It was very convincing, showing this island as a great potential threat.
Gangolf Haub - Mar 9, 2005 5:45 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentWell, the fact is, the thread it potential! Noone knows when - or even if - this collapse will happen. It would be quite a pity. La Palma is a very beautiful island (like Madeira in some respects).
livioz - Mar 11, 2005 6:34 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentAnd this time let's go on with the Canarian Campaign, by Gangolf in version Nostradamus (because of the possible tsunami)!
Gangolf Haub - Mar 11, 2005 7:19 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThe end is near! Repent your sins!
ND
Don Nelsen - Mar 15, 2005 1:47 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentVery interesting and well-done page! The mega tsunami part was particularly interesting to me since geologists have confirmed that such events have occurred many times in the history of the Hawaiian Islands too. One such event on the south west flank of Mauna Loa caused a wave that washed completely over at least one of the 1,500'+ neighboring islands. I have been to the site of that slide on the Kona Coast and seeing first hand the massive bite it took out of the island is most impressive. Even now, there is a huge 50 to 100 foot wide ten-mile long crack developing between Kilauea and Mauna Loa. I've hiked for miles along it and it's also an awesome feature. It is very difficult to get to so probably few are aware of it but it's worth the effort. Let's hope that when the next event occurs, everyone has enough warning to get out in time!
The Canaries look interesting - I hope you can add some more.
Don
Gangolf Haub - Mar 15, 2005 7:54 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Don. Everybody seemed to know La Palma when I said I would be going there. They told me about the theory and I remembered having read something about in in Newsweek a couple of years ago. On the island I wondered where this landslide would possibly take place but couldn't find any sign. So after returning I looked it up on Google. I have not been aware of any crack on the Cumbre Vieja Range but we hiked half of it in foggy conditions. However, the similarities between Hawaii and the Canaries are quite striking. But as far as I know on Hawaii the lavas are even more fluid then they usually are on La Palma. When Teneguía erupted it was an affair to which they took the schoolkids by the busload. When San Juan, Birigoyo and Hoya Negra erupted simultaneously in 1949 apart from the earthquakes only the large lava streams caused trouble.
Will I post some more? You bet! I think in the end I'll post about a dozen summits
Don Nelsen - Mar 15, 2005 10:31 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentI've had some time now to study your excellent photos and see that the island of La Palma also has an appearant rift zone (judging from the map). This looks like the area south of the main peak of Kilauea, Hawaii and also like the area south of the main summit of Mauna Loa. On your map, there is a broad arc south of the erosion crater that looks somewhat like the area on Mauna Loa that fell into the sea thousands of years ago creating the mega-tsunami. Here's one of the pics on my Haleakala page that shows some the summit erosion crater: Photo
Here's another view that shows the whole crater: Photo
I must say, though - La Palma's crater is somewhat bigger and that's saying a lot!
dn
Gangolf Haub - Mar 16, 2005 1:21 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThat part south of the caldera - the Cumbre Nueva - indeed is the remainder of a giant crater. Also, there is a similar history on El Hierro (100000 years ago), wher a large chunk slid into the sea. The Kilauea shots look like the Canadas del Teide on Tenerife and - you guessed it - tells the same story. Always the landslides occurred on the western side of the islands.
desainme - Mar 15, 2005 2:07 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentQuite high winds and excitement for such a small mountain.
Glad you are just fine. Spellbinding trip report.
Ciao
Mark
Gangolf Haub - Mar 15, 2005 7:57 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentGrazie Mark. You seem to have developped a taste for Italian! After all - looking back - the gale added to our mountaineering experiences. Like climbing a ferrata in a thunderstorm or finding ourselves on a 50° slope covered with ice. Once you get over the shock it actually becomes quite a nice experience.
Glad you liked the TR!
Gangolf Haub - Mar 15, 2005 7:48 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks Rafa!
Gangolf Haub - Mar 17, 2005 3:11 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks a lot!
Gangolf Haub - Mar 18, 2005 5:19 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks a lot!