Marmaduke wrote:What people think of the guy and his character is another forum that is worth discussing.

That the head of the California Department of Fish and Game, which regulates hunting, hunts as well? Oh the horror.

ExcitableBoy wrote:

norco17 wrote:The only problem here is that a bunch of anti hunting nut jobs are freeking out over something that is perfectly legal.

Us anti hunting nut jobs aren't freaking out over the issue of the legality of hunting, but the morality of killing an animal for no other reason than to get the hunter's rocks off. Did you get a look at that guy's face? You'd think he had just cured cancer or something equally useful and difficult, or at least got laid.

Did you read the article they ate the lion it was more than just " getting his rocks off." I bet if we looked at your images you have a summit shot of yourself with a big goofy smile. No different. He was happy with a successful hunt just like you are happy with a successful climb.

ExcitableBoy wrote:

norco17 wrote:The only problem here is that a bunch of anti hunting nut jobs are freeking out over something that is perfectly legal.

Us anti hunting nut jobs aren't freaking out over the issue of the legality of hunting, but the morality of killing an animal for no other reason than to get the hunter's rocks off. Did you get a look at that guy's face? You'd think he had just cured cancer or something equally useful and difficult, or at least got laid.

I mostly agree with you on the morality of this kind of hunting, and the only hunters I respect are bow-hunters.

But . . . it's legal. Change the law.

Don't call on a guy to resign for engaging in a legal activity.

mrchad9 wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:What people think of the guy and his character is another forum that is worth discussing.

That the head of the California Department of Fish and Game, which regulates hunting, hunts as well? Oh the horror.

As usual Chad......misrepresent what was stated. I DID NOT SAY THAT THE FACT HE HUNTS IS HORRIBLE. Par for the course with you.

I know for most hunters this is the norm but I quite frankly think it's sad commentary.
Duck hunters hide in blinds with camo all around them to blend in and they lay hundred of decoys out and use duck calls to entice the duck to them- sad.
Bear and Cougar hunters (in some states) lay out bait to attract the animals while again, either perched high up in a tree or a hunting blind and wait- sad.
Dogs "treeing" the game- sad.
And hunting for the meat and the skins, well OK in my book- but merely for the kill and a trophy- sick.
And this list could go on with other game as well.....this is called a sport? Yes I will judge his character and others of his ilk

Just a thought ... me thinks we need some more LAWS. I'll have my bear buddy discuss this issue with the HIGHER UPS ....

So why is this thread even in the General Forum?

Has absolutely nothing to do about anything regarding climbing.

Last time I checked, this was Summitpost.org NOT Huntingpost.org.

Plus the dude in question, DOESN'T even Climb.

Marmaduke wrote:

mrchad9 wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:What people think of the guy and his character is another forum that is worth discussing.

That the head of the California Department of Fish and Game, which regulates hunting, hunts as well? Oh the horror.

As usual Chad......misrepresent what was stated. I DID NOT SAY THAT THE FACT HE HUNTS IS HORRIBLE. Par for the course with you.

I know for most hunters this is the norm but I quite frankly think it's sad commentary.
Duck hunters hide in blinds with camo all around them to blend in and they lay hundred of decoys out and use duck calls to entice the duck to them- sad.
Bear and Cougar hunters (in some states) lay out bait to attract the animals while again, either perched high up in a tree or a hunting blind and wait- sad.
Dogs "treeing" the game- sad.
And hunting for the meat and the skins, well OK in my book- but merely for the kill and a trophy- sick.
And this list could go on with other game as well.....this is called a sport? Yes I will judge his character and others of his ilk

He ate it Marmaduke. Did you miss that part?

What's your issue with him? You don't hunt, but you want to tell others how to do it? Sounds like nanny state liberalism to me.

norco17 wrote:
Did you read the article they ate the lion it was more than just " getting his rocks off." I bet if we looked at your images you have a summit shot of yourself with a big goofy smile. No different. He was happy with a successful hunt just like you are happy with a successful climb.

That they ate the animal makes no difference. Dude in the photo looks plenty well fed. He wasn't substinence hunting. There is big a difference between having dogs chase an animal up a tree to shoot it and climbing. When I climb I don't take the life of a beautiful animal. He gets his rocks off killing animals, I get my rocks off climbing rocks. One activity is destructive and consumptive, one is not.

Dow Williams wrote:

And those humans that use dogs and high powered weps to terminate Lions from a ground level and no more than 20 foot separation between their muzzles end and the targets (lion) head.

Of course it will be a Head Shot.

Had the CAF&G Boss missed this target, that assuredly would have been grounds for his immediate dismissal from his post.



Sarah Palin and her Helo Hunting Business Approve.

ExcitableBoy wrote:

norco17 wrote:
Did you read the article they ate the lion it was more than just " getting his rocks off." I bet if we looked at your images you have a summit shot of yourself with a big goofy smile. No different. He was happy with a successful hunt just like you are happy with a successful climb.

That they ate the animal makes no difference. Dude in the photo looks plenty well fed. He wasn't substinence hunting. There is big a difference between having dogs chase an animal up a tree to shoot it and climbing. When I climb I don't take the life of a beautiful animal. He gets his rocks off killing animals, I get my rocks off climbing rocks. One activity is destructive and consumptive, one is not.

How do you get to your climbs? Do you take a car? They pollute, consume carbon fuels, and need concrete and asphalt paths covering potential wilderness. Deliberately destructive and consumptive.

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Good Ol' Charlie Manson! I was near his hide out, and later near his prison cell this past weekend.

The CA DFG official hunts mountain lion story has been around for awhile now, with new layers being added over time. It certainly provides an opportunity for discussion. I wonder how much impact any of it will end up having on laws and culture in the long run.

mrchad9 wrote:

ExcitableBoy wrote:

norco17 wrote:
Did you read the article they ate the lion it was more than just " getting his rocks off." I bet if we looked at your images you have a summit shot of yourself with a big goofy smile. No different. He was happy with a successful hunt just like you are happy with a successful climb.

That they ate the animal makes no difference. Dude in the photo looks plenty well fed. He wasn't substinence hunting. There is big a difference between having dogs chase an animal up a tree to shoot it and climbing. When I climb I don't take the life of a beautiful animal. He gets his rocks off killing animals, I get my rocks off climbing rocks. One activity is destructive and consumptive, one is not.

How do you get to your climbs? Do you take a car? They pollute, consume carbon fuels, and need concrete and asphalt paths covering potential wilderness. Deliberately destructive and consumptive.

FWIW, I don't own a car, but for the sake of your argument, do you really equate driving with killing a noble beast? Do you equate your morning commute with say shooting your neighbor's dog in the head?

SeanReedy wrote:The CA DFG official hunts mountain lion story has been around for awhile now, with new layers being added over time. It certainly provides an opportunity for discussion. I wonder how much impact any of it will end up having on laws and culture in the long run.

Had the CA DF&G Boss any real balls, he would have utilized this wep with a single standard 661 gr projectile and terminated that lion from 3 miles away while in his cosey lounge chair with a glass of 100 year old Scotch AND a lit Cohiba in his mouth.






Now that would have been a shot heard around the world!!!!

People kill animals ... motorized vehicles or firearms NEVER kill animals.