Controversy: Rainier 500 Summits-Claim

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by outofstep80 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:54 pm

Andinistaloco wrote:
SophiaClimbs wrote: Then I realized a week later, I HAD climbed that mountain. Maybe I'm just getting old. :?


Nah, you're not. 8)

I've had the same damned thing happen. Seems to happen more with the peaks I've been up in the last couple years, whereas the older ones I have no trouble remembering. A few months ago I said I really wanted to get up the CMC on Moran... and about ten seconds later remembered I'd done it a summer or two ago. D'oh.


Consider yourselves lucky. I wish I had trouble remembering all the mountains I've climbed. :cry:

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by Bob Burd » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:16 am

Vitaliy M wrote:How do you guys know it is Dan Howitt? Could be any prick


It has the signature Dan Howitt fingerprint - tons and tons of text and analysis to little purpose. Huge controversies that are only controversies to him, in my opinion. I believe he has created an army of internet avatars to push his agendas and claims. Do a search for his name and read some of the stuff out there and you'll get a flavor for the man.

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by adventurer » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:35 am

In 2005, I spent four days on Rainier (Emmons Glacier route) with an IMG team led by George Dunn. If my memory is correct, that was his 474th summit. He is a great mountaineer, and a patient teacher. I learned a lot from him during that climb.

Congratulations George!!! :D

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by simonov » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:42 am

adventurer wrote:In 2005, I spent four days on Rainier (Emmons Glacier route) with an IMG team led by George Dunn. If my memory is correct, that was his 474th summit. He is a great mountaineer, and a patient teacher. I learned a lot from him during that climb.

Congratulations George!!! :D


I don't think this thread is turning out the way the OP intended.

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by rdesota » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:56 am

Wow - congrats George. I was very happy to hear - 500!

Spent a month with George and know that he represents the finest of what mountaineers and people in general have to offer.

If I were so rainmanesque focused on the numbers like the OP, I'd card count in Vegas instead.

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by peakpost » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:05 am

This User
http://www.summitpost.org/user_page.php?user_id=276
has had false information at this user's Mt. Rainier page for 2+ years.
http://www.summitpost.org/route/155670/ ... aver.html0.
4th paragraph, last sentence.
''Chad Kellogg set the current record of ...''
The is false
Willie Benegas holds the current record with 4:40:59 per Ranger Mike Gauthier's website
http://mountrainierclimbing.blogspot.co ... ?q=benegas
Two others also beat Chad Kellogg's time.
Liam O'Sullivan and Justin Merle
http://mountrainierclimbing.blogspot.co ... laims.html
http://mountainguides.com/pop_news_seat ... 8_08.shtml

The information about the 3 new records has been public since 2008, two years ago.
Many state news papers covered the new records, Seattle Times, Tacoma Tribune.
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by brianhughes » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:34 am

peakpost wrote:Bob Burd has had false information at his page for Mt. Rainier for 2+ years.
http://www.summitpost.org/route/155670/ ... eaver.html
with
The following is false
''Chad Kellogg set the current record of ...''


Very disappointed in you Bob, with only 114 SP routes to keep track of, one would think you'd go back and do some fact checking from time to time. It's not like you've been busy doing anything else.

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by Andinistaloco » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:26 am

If it is the same guy (Dan) - and I'm not 100% it is, of course, but it feels the same as the last 10 times - I feel damned sorry for him. Imagine not being able to be happy with your climbs unless you were faster than everyone else. Imagine climbing an incredible peak and then... looking at your stopwatch and deciding it was worthless, because the watch says 3:09:34 instead of 3:08:57.

Awful, ain't it?

...I'm blessed. I'm usually one of the slowest. Blessed, I says!

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by Marmaduke » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:27 am

peakpost wrote:This User
http://www.summitpost.org/user_page.php?user_id=276
has had false information at this user's Mt. Rainier page for 2+ years.
http://www.summitpost.org/route/155670/ ... aver.html0.
4th paragraph, last sentence.
''Chad Kellogg set the current record of ...''
The is false
Willie Benegas holds the current record with 4:40:59 per Ranger Mike Gauthier's website
http://mountrainierclimbing.blogspot.co ... ?q=benegas
Two others also beat Chad Kellogg's time.
Liam O'Sullivan and Justin Merle
http://mountrainierclimbing.blogspot.co ... laims.html
http://mountainguides.com/pop_news_seat ... 8_08.shtml

The information about the 3 new records has been public since 2008, two years ago.
Many state news papers covered the new records, Seattle Times, Tacoma Tribune.


I don't know Dan Howitt nor have I heard of him. As I am very new to hiking/climbing. But based on your responses, the fact you choose not to show your age, your face........... I'll bet you're about 15 years old, wait that's an insult to my son, you're probably 12 and you lack self confidence. You weren't held enough as baby and you still suck your thumb at age 12. Pretty close?

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by simonov » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:37 pm

Andinistaloco wrote:If it is the same guy (Dan) - and I'm not 100% it is, of course, but it feels the same as the last 10 times - I feel damned sorry for him. Imagine not being able to be happy with your climbs unless you were faster than everyone else. Imagine climbing an incredible peak and then... looking at your stopwatch and deciding it was worthless, because the watch says 3:09:34 instead of 3:08:57.


I am tangentially reminded of a presentation I watched concerning "ultralight" backpacking. The presenter told us how he and his buddies would weigh their packs with a fish scale at the trailhead (and had photographs to prove it). Those whose packs were heaviest would find crap to remove from their packs to get the weight down (we are talking about sub-20lb overnight backpacks).

While most of the other people in the audience thought that was really cool, I remember thinking, "Dude, you are missing the point."

The rest of the slide show portrayed "ultralight" backpackers looking cold and miserable out in the backcountry, to the intense interest of the rest of the audience. But not for me.

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by Hotoven » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:52 pm

Wow knoback, seems like lately all you want to do is burn a Bible? We should call a few local news casters first though. Then maybe get a slushy?

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by Klenke » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:24 am

I have climbed Mt. Rainier one time. A personal record shared by many.

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by lcarreau » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:33 am

I climbed Rainier one and a half times.

Doesn't a "day trip" from Paradise to Camp Muir to Paradise count ???

8)

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by mconnell » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:27 am

Can't recall a date 40 years ago, so he must not have climbed it. Hell, off the top of my head, I can't recall the dates of ANY peaks I've summited, and certainly not anything from that long ago.

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by Andinistaloco » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:41 am

simonov wrote: I remember thinking, "Dude, you are missing the point."


'xactly.

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