by gregorpatsch » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:31 pm
by Joe White » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:12 pm
by Hotoven » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:53 am
by SKI » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:04 am
by mjosoba » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:24 am
by Alpinisto » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:01 pm
mjosoba wrote:Man, I can't see how some chinese company could go to all the trouble and expense of making the tools and dies for this and make a profit on something as obscure, or not mainstream, as climbing gear. Suckage.
by Dow Williams » Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:31 pm
Alpinisto wrote:mjosoba wrote:Man, I can't see how some chinese company could go to all the trouble and expense of making the tools and dies for this and make a profit on something as obscure, or not mainstream, as climbing gear. Suckage.
Yeah, it's definitely bizzare. I mean, it's climbing hardwear, not a Rolex watch or a North Face puffy jacket.
Hey, wait a minute...are all the rappers wearing carabiners as fashion accessories now? That might explain it...
by Hotoven » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:58 pm
AlpineAffinity wrote:
Sooner or later, you're gunna be interested in trad, and when you do, you'll squeeze that gushy trigger on those sweet Camalots and become a fan for life!
by Buz Groshong » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:18 pm
Dow Williams wrote:Alpinisto wrote:mjosoba wrote:Man, I can't see how some chinese company could go to all the trouble and expense of making the tools and dies for this and make a profit on something as obscure, or not mainstream, as climbing gear. Suckage.
Yeah, it's definitely bizzare. I mean, it's climbing hardwear, not a Rolex watch or a North Face puffy jacket.
Hey, wait a minute...are all the rappers wearing carabiners as fashion accessories now? That might explain it...
Does not surprise me....I think a lot of folks here on SP hang this stuff on their wall for prestige sake....why not the masses in NY, Dallas and LA? Some guy in China is just getting ahead of the buying curve. Correction above.... Petzl did not screw up the design of their new Quark, rather the new Nomic...the Quark problems were/are inventory/material supplier related. Either way, I agree Petzl is writing the book on how to lose market share overnight on some of their more revered product lines. If they were publicly traded, they would make for a great short.
by SKI » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:56 pm
Hotoven wrote:AlpineAffinity wrote:
Sooner or later, you're gunna be interested in trad, and when you do, you'll squeeze that gushy trigger on those sweet Camalots and become a fan for life!
I own a set of metolius cams and they do me fine.
by Damien Gildea » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:31 am
by Buz Groshong » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:31 pm
Damien Gildea wrote::roll: It's an issue of the IP and manufacturing security situation in China. These kinds of fakes are usually not really fully fake, there's usually some legitimate connection.
Have a read of http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=446234 and see the post about eight from the end.
For safety equipment it is a real worry, no doubt. For clothing and some other items, the 'fake' gear may not be much different from the genuine product, and given how most people use, or don't use, their gear, and that Gore-Tex doesn't really breathe enough, and that REI has gone soft, the fakes are probably perfectly fine for most people, so long as they never know it.
Out now, all new and max-treme ... Placebo Gear™
by Buz Groshong » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:41 pm
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