Marmot cites the extra poles of the thor to stand up to Himalayan/Alaskan weather. But alpinist cuts like 4 pounds off. Anybody got insight or experience with these out in the big mtns?

Eldo...Accept no substitutes

I've used the Marmot Alpinist on Aconcagua spending 6 days at 19,000+ but the winds were not as high as I've typically seen.

If you're carrying it yourself on the route, you want the lightest possible, no question. Comfort be damned. If you have Sherpas, it's irrelevant.

Will it be cold? ie. Khumbu above 5000m in November or March? Because double-walls are much warmer than singles, with much less condensation. In real-world use on big mountains singles give serious condensation problems, regardless what the manufacturer says. They are a compromise.

How bold you feel? If you think you'll actually be camping high on the route in bad weather then you want bomber. But what are you doing up high in bad weather? You should be eating, sleeping and spraying in BC. Maybe wait for better weather and use a lighter tent.

Are you tall? The Alpinist is 5" shorter, meaning cold feet pressed against the single-wall.

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Thor 2 worked really well on Aconcagua with bad ass winds. I am forever a slave to that tent.

World Tested... from the Polar Ice Shelf Winds of Antarctica to Everest.

I hear only great things about this rig....

Hillegerg Kaitum 2 GT

Damien Gildea wrote:In real-world use on big mountains singles give serious condensation problems, regardless what the manufacturer says. They are a compromise.

Not all single wall tents are equal. The eVENT Mk1 Lite (by Integral Designs) is an awesome 4-season solo winter mountaineering tent under 4lbs. The eVENT fabric holds up remarkably well against the elements with little or no condensation. Good luck finding one though.

I used the tent on both Orizaba and Aconcagua at high camp with fairly high winds. The shot below was taken near Gasherbrum III by Corax.

Alpinist wrote:

Damien Gildea wrote:In real-world use on big mountains singles give serious condensation problems, regardless what the manufacturer says. They are a compromise.

Not all single wall tents are equal. The eVENT Mk1 Lite (by Integral Designs) is an awesome 4-season solo winter mountaineering tent under 4lbs. The eVENT fabric holds up remarkably well against the elements with little or no condensation. Good luck finding one though.

Always other options such as the Nemo Tenshi that utilizes a condensation cloth to confine/manage the condensation.

get a Hilleberg, they cant be beat.

Alpinist wrote:I used the tent on both Orizaba and Aconcagua at high camp with fairly high winds. The shot below was taken near Gasherbrum III by Corax.

Looks like yur about to get fkd by that Avy debris cloud....

The Chief wrote:

Alpinist wrote:I used the tent on both Orizaba and Aconcagua at high camp with fairly high winds. The shot below was taken near Gasherbrum III by Corax.

Looks like yur about to get fkd by that Avy debris cloud....

Here's the msg that Corax posted for that photo:

I'm backing off a bit shooting the last photo in the sequence. I gathered all the loose gear and chucked it into my tent. The wind was not as strong as I had expected, but enough to blow away some lighter gear (gloves and stuff sacks) which had been outside other tents. Remember; we're almost a km away from the bottom of the face.

One night a much larger avalanche hit. I thought the wind would rip my tent to pieces, but it stood strong.

jordansahls wrote:get a Hilleberg, they cant be beat.

I would have to third this and Chief's recommendation.
I had my first experience with a Hilleberg this past weekend up on Capitol Peak and all I got to say is WOW!
Ample room, nifty ventilation and one hell of a vestibule. I was duly impressed.
Temps were down near 0°F but we had no wind.
Condensation was a bit problematic but anymore, I just deal with it by bringing a small hand towel.

I didn't think it was the quickest tent to set up but it was fairly easy. It was absolutely bomber once we had it erected and we plan on using it as a base camp later in December for another go at Capitol and the Maroon Bells. I plan on buying one later this winter.
I personally think it would be money well spent.

There are so many different tents Hilleberg made. I'm so confused with their website. What are the difference between Nallo and Nammatj, Keron and Kaitum?