I'm certain you folks recall the demise of Alpinist when they were selling their lucrative demographics.
http://www.statlistics.com/datacards/cndc182.htm
Average income, $91,000.
by haivanhuynh » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:01 am
by mvs » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:03 am
battledome wrote:I think it depends. Some people start out middle class... and then they become climbers and drop a socio-economic rung or two.
by CClaude » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:28 pm
by kheegster » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:59 pm
by Augie Medina » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:02 pm
by Dow Williams » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:22 pm
kheegster wrote:To be honest, while I can someone dirtbagging as a sport or even trad climber, alpine climbing is much more gear-intensive (a good -20 deg bag = rack + rope), and difficult alpine-style climbs totally trashes gear.
I'm already dumping my income straight into gear, and I'm not sure I'd be able to do any alpine if I were to end up flipping burgers.
by fatdad » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:34 pm
by CClaude » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:39 pm
Mountain Impulse wrote:Just my guess that high disposable income is more of a factor (a requiste) for activities like high altitude mountaineering. I imagine Himalayan outings cost a pretty penny, not only in terms of out-of-pocket for travel and gear, but also the equivalent in time; unless you're in the renown/elite class where you have sponsors.
by Luciano136 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:51 pm
by Alpinist » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:40 pm
Dow Williams wrote:kheegster wrote:To be honest, while I can someone dirtbagging as a sport or even trad climber, alpine climbing is much more gear-intensive (a good -20 deg bag = rack + rope), and difficult alpine-style climbs totally trashes gear.
I'm already dumping my income straight into gear, and I'm not sure I'd be able to do any alpine if I were to end up flipping burgers.
True, you just have to be smart about that...I see way too many of you buying expensive gear that the industry produces for one purpose....to sell to the wealthier "big mountain" trekkers because they want the absolute best and can afford it....most of it really is not going to make you any better of a climber or your expedition go any smoother....i.e. ArcTeryx clothing, expensive plastics and/or the latest tools (if you are only climbing WI 4 anyway?)...if you want to climb hard, I expect you to rip your clothes and outerwear to threads, no matter who makes it. Be smart about paying reasonable prices for it. So many folks are geared up way beyond their level or what they need. Just an observation. The more you spend, the better for me, but there at better things in life to spend your hard earned money on.
by SpiderSavage » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:47 pm
by dioid » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:51 pm
mvs wrote:battledome wrote:I think it depends. Some people start out middle class... and then they become climbers and drop a socio-economic rung or two.
Haha! That's totally me. I lost all ambition to climb the corporate ladder when I found such a great way to spend my free time. And the "work hard retire early" path seemed to contain a lot of potholes...
by MichaelJ » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:11 pm
kheegster wrote:To be honest, while I can someone dirtbagging as a sport or even trad climber, alpine climbing is much more gear-intensive (a good -20 deg bag = rack + rope), and difficult alpine-style climbs totally trashes gear.
I'm already dumping my income straight into gear, and I'm not sure I'd be able to do any alpine if I were to end up flipping burgers.
by RickF » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:23 pm
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