by Vitaliy M. » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:58 pm
by mrchad9 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:06 pm
by fatdad » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:53 pm
by Vitaliy M. » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:27 pm
They aren't THAT heavy.
by mrchad9 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:38 pm
Vitaliy M. wrote:They aren't THAT heavy.
Not ones I have!
There is no deadly exposure there though right?
by sharperblue » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:39 pm
by Vitaliy M. » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:54 pm
by PellucidWombat » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:39 am
by mrchad9 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:15 am
PellucidWombat wrote:Vitaly, if there's one area you need crampons, it will be descending Cox Col rather than ascending to any of the routes on BCS, so throwing them down won't help you.
by x15x15 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:17 am
by PellucidWombat » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:45 am
mrchad9 wrote:PellucidWombat wrote:Vitaly, if there's one area you need crampons, it will be descending Cox Col rather than ascending to any of the routes on BCS, so throwing them down won't help you.
Baloney.
You can easily get to the rock rib on the right side without crampons. If you don't need them to get to the route you definitely won't need them to get down. Just have to go a bt further north before descending than you might otherwise have to.
by Vitaliy M. » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:15 am
by granjero » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:42 am
Vitaliy M. wrote:With one jacket for each
Vitaliy M. wrote:cell phone
by The Chief » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:58 am
Vitaliy M. wrote:Cool, I can see everyone's point. I will not bring them, if I will slip and die blame Chad and x15x15. I understand Mark's point, but I prefer to enjoy a climb by not bringing more gear than I really need to. I actually prefer bare minimum. 1 pack that will be exchanged based on who is leading and who is following. With one jacket for each, a hat, 1L of water, some energy gels, cell phone, topo. Stash the other back pack with more food and other misc stuff at the base.
When I was climbing in the Cascades this year (doing a carry over Liberty Ridge to Emmons as you have) my pack did not weight much at all, maybe 32lbs or so with all our camping gear (although I was able to get it down to 27lbs? when I did Whitney glacier on Shasta with Chad). Jetboil, gas, 3lb tent (divided for two), +freeze dried personal food/GU, personal clothes (could have cut some weight here too), sleeping bag (+10 down bag), 1 neo air sleeping pad (14 oz), other personal accessories. Worked great, and I wouldn't want to take anything extra for any other objective there. I want to be able to consistently get my pack down to 25lbs or so for overnight technical climbs where I need to carry my stuff all day.
by WML » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:26 am
granjero wrote:Vitaliy M. wrote:With one jacket for each
Get a Houdini jacket from patagucci. Super warm and super duper outrageously light! Ultimate alpine jacket for non-precipitation conditions IMHOVitaliy M. wrote:cell phone
For pictures? I don't think you can make booty calls for the trailhead up there unless you got satellite capabilities LOL
And just super hydrate before and bring a jolly rancher or two for each pitch to whet the whistle. That climb is short and you needn't worry about dehydration. Plus going uber light means motivation and ability to go uber fast! wheeee
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