Dane1 wrote:FWIW, I don't have specific crampons for specific boots. I simply take the time to fit my choice of crampon to the boot.
So are you stating that you actually change and alternate pons around on a specific boot?
by Kahuna » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:23 pm
Dane1 wrote:FWIW, I don't have specific crampons for specific boots. I simply take the time to fit my choice of crampon to the boot.
by Nitrox » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:03 pm
A5RP wrote:Dane1 wrote:FWIW, I don't have specific crampons for specific boots. I simply take the time to fit my choice of crampon to the boot.
So are you stating that you actually change and alternate pons around on a specific boot?
by Ben Beckerich » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:07 pm
Dane1 wrote:Cold Thistle hammers?
As the web site says, they are $60 each.
http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2012/10 ... mmers.htmlBen B wrote:Your differing doesn't change the slop ass fit between Sportiva boots and BD pons.
Well pardon me Ben. Forgot who's nonsense I was quoting there.
But glad you have joined the party and actually noticed how different crampons fit.
But save your preaching to the choir will ya. Your sarcasm is touching though.
But please enlighten us on the actual boot size, actual boot model and actual crampon that gives you a "slop ass fit?
I'm pretty curious having climbed a lot WI5 in those combos (with the original big bail) and not lost a crampon or died yet.
And I am just the tip of the iceberg on real world use. Colin Haley seems to do will with those same combos and the original bigger front bail.
As I said I have owned multiple La Sportiva boots and multiple BD crampons. Easy enough to make any of them fit better if they don't fit well enough already. Issues on the really tiny boots (38 or so down) and some issues on the really big boots. (47 up) You fix that by ordering the newest BD bail if you have a problem. Where do you think the idea of that betetr bail design came from, at least in part?[/b] The old style, bigger (used now for more than a decade) bail doesn't fit the newest low profile boots the best. Awesome on palstic though. But there are worse examples. I prefer to just simplfy things and use a Petzl bail on my BDs. Just as many others are doing now. Petzl? Never seen a problem fitting La Sportiva boot on Petzl crampons..as in ZERO, none. Although I do prefer a BD rear lever. I'd also not be surprised if my definition of "fitting" is a lot more definative and precise than yours.
by Kahuna » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:22 pm
Drop some big names, claim to have done it/used it on Wi5, and generally behave as though everything you say should be the final word... The Dane Method.
Buy boots that fit you like a glove, then buy the crampons that fit that boot best...
by Dane1 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:31 pm
by Kahuna » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:06 pm
But good advice? How about this? Petzl bails are generally less that $20 a pair, new BD's should be something similar. Rear heel levers close to $25 a pair from BD iirc..may be a bit more. Grivel spare parts are available now from Liberty. But haven't checked there for G20 bails to replace curled bails with or their heel levers. All have 800 #s.
by Dane1 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:30 pm
by Nitrox » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:22 pm
A5RP wrote:And the deal I do not get is, who the hell has the money to purchase four or five different pairs of pons in order to make a set up that will fit a certain type/make boot?
Wow! One is looking at one expensive pair of pons... $800-1000.00. Must be the same dudes that can afford to pay 120.00 for a pair of hammers that one can make themselves for no more than $25.00 for a set.
by Kahuna » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:31 pm
I have less than $200 in three pairs of crampons
It seems as though you want to be as right about this as Dane and you're willing to show your ass the same way.
well you get the point
by Nitrox » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:52 pm
A5RP wrote:I have less than $200 in three pairs of crampons
Math doesn't add up unless of course you purchased the three basic bodies used for pennies on the dollar.It seems as though you want to be as right about this as Dane and you're willing to show your ass the same way.
You of course must be one of them folks that paid 120.00 for a pair of them hammers.well you get the point
In the end, I could give a flying ratsass what you or anyone uses. Just pointing out the facts and the realities. Just like your $200 for three pairs of "new" pons. Bullshit!
by Kahuna » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:58 pm
I didn't say new.... you did
by Dane1 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:16 am
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