I am not so interested in the golden fleece look or having a perfume smell. But just wondering if this gunk could be used to fertilize nearby ground or be a heat source in the cold months so someone could warm their hands during a cross country ski trip.

ScottHanson wrote:But just wondering if this gunk could be a heat source in the cold months so someone could warm their hands during a cross country ski trip.

In a moment of desperation, his hands nearly frozen from the intense cold, Jedi Scott uses his light sabre to slice open his wag bag and use the oozing contents to warm himself...

Yes, that is a plausible use of a wag bag, Bob. Sounds messy. Actually, I was thinking about a design to dry pit toilet contents into fuel, and then burn that stored energy in an "on-off" flame burner tip next to the outhouse. Disclaimer, I am not an engineer by training.

Bob: Pete needs Shirley's number.

This thread is wandering just a bit from the OP. Nonetheless, the painkillers help me keep interest.

Much thought has been expended on bioreactors for human waste. I haven't checked these calculations, but the direct format makes it easy to see the problems involved:
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2010/ph240/cook2/

I find the focus on urine a bit odd; unless a person has a UTI, his/her urine should be pretty sterile. In most outdoor environments (not in the winter, not in super-dry environments), urine degrades very quickly. Some animals use unusual conditions to keep the urine from degrading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pack_rat); but there are many microbes (in normal soil) that are just waiting to derive energy from the nitrogen cycle.

It all comes down to managing conditions so the degradation rate exceeds the application rate.

MoapaPk wrote:This thread is wandering just a bit from the OP. Nonetheless, the painkillers help me keep interest.

I find the focus on urine a bit odd

Its all related. See, we started with recommending Pete's site for Northern Sierra summits. Then we found the link broken, intentionally, because I tried to circumvent security. As I was investigating the problem, I learned new stuff from Pete's site, including that he has been dabbling in pee bottles on his hikes and spent a weekend at a lavish Vegas resort without resorting to prostitutes (though he did lose $45 at the gaming tables). The outdoor fountain display was incredible (HD video available). It's pretty much impossible to stand there and film the whole thing without having to pee, thus the pee bottle. Ok, that last connection was mine, not strictly from the text.

And see Pete, you didn't think anyone was reading your stuff anymore!

What was the costume? I can't find this pic on your site!

Nice picture Pete! Thanks!!!

I am thinking of joining my local chapter of the SC.
do you think that is a good idea?

1000Pks wrote:btw, if evil is your bent, there's KKK, Al Qaeda, and the Mafia or the cartels!

I'm more into the church of Satan, but I will check those out too. thanks for the suggestions.

Gibberish? I thought I was having a mature discussion with scholarly adults.

halloween came early
get yer brooms!

Pete,
We all owe you a debt of gratitude for sharing your Northern Sierra Peaks Guide. It is a great gift you have made to the hiking/climbing community. Thank you.
Scott