Guyzo wrote:Unless I am missing something?

Misha wrote:

Guyzo wrote:Unless I am missing something?

Yep! You're missing something. I am not spilling eheh

HandjamMasterC wrote:

Have climbed a lot, sort of in KK. Chernobyl Wall, North Dome are all huge hikes right? They could be anywhere... I was really pointing out the fact that the climbs with short approaches are not that good....

KK has nothing even as good as "The Five Open Books" anywhere.

Unless I am missing something?

spill beans, Craig.

It's about as huge a hike as Suicide. If you were climbing on North Dome, I could shoot you with my M1 Garand with iron sights.

Guyzo wrote:I was thinking of The Grand Sentinel, that stuff you put up way way way way up that wall....
that is a really tough place to get a big wall rack up to.

ksolem wrote:I believe it. Same thing happenned to me. Objects in Kings Canyon are larger than they appear...

Guyzo wrote:

Misha wrote:

Guyzo wrote:Unless I am missing something?

Yep! You're missing something. I am not spilling eheh

Well... I guess we will need to go see....

Whats with the slag roots, by Boyden Cave? Slab climbs with trees to hit while falling....

Personalty, I feel that KK is one of the great starting points in the Sierra.

So you KK propsters... I have a q for you all:

In Vernons book, he talks about a 1,000 foot long, "F7" "Golden Aret" that stays about 3 feet wide for it's entire length. It's supposed to be visible from "Roads End".

Anybody done that, seen that.?

I am addicted to climbing on "Sierra Gold".... and fixes are hard to find.

spill beans, please.

The Chief wrote:

ksolem wrote:I believe it. Same thing happenned to me. Objects in Kings Canyon are larger than they appear...

Yup!

And 90% of them entail mostly Aid or the ability to climb sustained 5.11 trad.

That's the beans that Craig's not spelling.

ksolem wrote:Someone told me Kauk wanted to have a go at freeing Craig's route Cosmopolis up there on The Grand Sentinel until he did the approach once.

I believe it. Same thing happenned to me. Objects in Kings Canyon are larger than they appear...

Misha wrote:

Guyzo wrote:I was thinking of The Grand Sentinel, that stuff you put up way way way way up that wall....
that is a really tough place to get a big wall rack up to.

That approach will always have a special place in my heart

Dave Daly wrote:

Maybe there are local climbers in these areas and they don't bother with the gym..

Tom-

Not to sound condescending but....STAY AWAY FROM THE GYM SCENE!!

Locals out at Tollhouse that you may run into......Barry Chambers and Cam Donahoo. Barry does resoling and lives in Auberry and Cam lives in Shaver Springs (just above Tollhouse). Look em up! Secondly, PM or email me or NateD here on SP. We'll help steer you in the right direction. Have you got your hands on the Sequoia Kings Canyon guidebook (rare these days and out of print)??

Places close to your stomping grounds:

-Tollhouse
-Courtright Reservoir
-The Obelisk
-Hoffman Mountain
-Kerkhoff Dome
-Shuteye Ridge (shhhh...its a secret )
-Wamello Dome (or Fresno Dome)
-Kings Canyon (dear god, don't get me started on a list!)
-Sequoia Nat' Park.....with a few notable formations to check out: Moro Rock, Little Baldy, Crystal Wall, Chimney Rock, Chimney Wall, Big Baldy

Speaking of Sequoia, some of the best obscure west side formations and roots around! If you're looking for a bit of alpine climbs on the west, try this one on for size:

The Timex Route (5.9), The Watchtower (Sequoia Nat'l Park)

-Sequoia Nat' Park.....with a few notable formations to check out: Moro Rock, Little Baldy, Crystal Wall, Chimney Rock, Chimney Wall, Big Baldy