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Re: Figuring things out on your own

Postby drjohnso1182 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:35 am

Husker wrote:
truchas wrote:
MarthaP wrote:It was clear no one read the posts and, out of sheer laziness, wanted a quick answer without doing their own research.


Did you ever consider the thought that maybe the posts were poorly written and that is why nobody read them?


How does it go: "There are no stupid questions...just stupid people answering them?"

There Are No Stupid Questions, But There Are a Lot of Inquisitive Idiots.
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Postby Bob Sihler » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:09 pm

Pardon me, but isn't the purpose of the forums to ask questions and get information? I agree there are many stupid questions and topics-- like the endless posts about climbing Hood and Rainier-- but isn't that why the forums are here?

I've been here long enough and have added enough pages here that I know my way around the site quite well, but a newer member or non-contributing one might have a much tougher time. What's the big deal? Someone wants to know the closest 14er to Denver? Fine, tell him and provide a link to the SP page and then leave the rest to him. What's so terrible about that?
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Postby MoapaPk » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:12 pm

That takes wastes too much time. Instead, write a 20-lines response explaining that it wastes time.
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Postby Bob Sihler » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:27 pm

MikeTX wrote:
Pivvay wrote:
fossana wrote:
MoapaPk wrote:
zenalpinist wrote:I'd like to do something sometime that might take place somewhere that isn't where I am presently at. I'm not sure what this will be but I hope that someone might have some leads that might produce some information that would be helpful in this endeavor.


Secor says you just follow the obvious weakness to a ledge system.


It goes at class 5.


But with careful route finding you can keep it at class 4


What's class 4?


For my students, it's history.
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Postby JasonH » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:28 pm

MikeTX wrote:
Pivvay wrote:
fossana wrote:
MoapaPk wrote:
zenalpinist wrote:I'd like to do something sometime that might take place somewhere that isn't where I am presently at. I'm not sure what this will be but I hope that someone might have some leads that might produce some information that would be helpful in this endeavor.


Secor says you just follow the obvious weakness to a ledge system.


It goes at class 5.


But with careful route finding you can keep it at class 4


What's class 4?


Class 4 is any class 3 climb I wuss out on. :oops:
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Postby drjohnso1182 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:34 pm

Bob Sihler wrote:
MikeTX wrote:
Pivvay wrote:
fossana wrote:
MoapaPk wrote:
zenalpinist wrote:I'd like to do something sometime that might take place somewhere that isn't where I am presently at. I'm not sure what this will be but I hope that someone might have some leads that might produce some information that would be helpful in this endeavor.


Secor says you just follow the obvious weakness to a ledge system.


It goes at class 5.


But with careful route finding you can keep it at class 4


What's class 4?


For my students, it's history.

Time flies like an arrow.
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Postby Arthur Digbee » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:47 pm

drjohnso1182 wrote:Time flies like an arrow.


Fruit flies like a banana.

There, I've said it. Happy?
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Postby chicagotransplant » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:09 pm

Bob Sihler wrote:Pardon me, but isn't the purpose of the forums to ask questions and get information? I agree there are many stupid questions and topics-- like the endless posts about climbing Hood and Rainier-- but isn't that why the forums are here?

I've been here long enough and have added enough pages here that I know my way around the site quite well, but a newer member or non-contributing one might have a much tougher time. What's the big deal? Someone wants to know the closest 14er to Denver? Fine, tell him and provide a link to the SP page and then leave the rest to him. What's so terrible about that?


Exactly, the forums are just another way for people to find information, its like the search function but with a human generating the returns instead of a machine. I prefer getting a real person when I call a tech support line than "press 1 for..." recordings.

Some advice for people who get annoyed by "noobs" - if someone asks a "stupid question", just ignore them and let someone else answer them :wink:
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Postby MoapaPk » Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:35 pm

josegarcia wrote:does anyone else here break in their footgear?


I've sprained an ankle, but never actually broken.
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Postby Dave Dinnell » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:04 pm

Arthur Digbee wrote:
drjohnso1182 wrote:Time flies like an arrow.


Fruit flies like a banana.

There, I've said it. Happy?


And "time passes like shit through a short dog" (Edward Abbey 8) )
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Postby moonspots » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:22 pm

Bob Sihler wrote:Pardon me, but isn't the purpose of the forums to ask questions and get information? I agree there are many stupid questions and topics-- like the endless posts about climbing Hood and Rainier-- but isn't that why the forums are here?


It appears to me that the defining difference between your observation and Martha's initial comment is that she expects people to do at least some of their own "due dilligence" research, then ask away for clarification. And I agree, 100%.
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Postby Bob Sihler » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:58 pm

josegarcia wrote:does anyone else here break in their footgear?


It's not climbing if you use footgear.
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Postby Husker » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:18 am

MoapaPk wrote:That takes wastes too much time. Instead, write a 20-lines response explaining that it wastes time.


OH SNAP!! (Can we still use that expression in 2010?) :lol: :lol:
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