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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby rpc » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:53 am

Brian,
did he actually save them off of SP and then upload them to cc.com? I looked at his gallery on cc.com and they're not there (might have missed them I guess). So is it just a matter of posting one of 'em fancy shmancy links to your photos on SP in the cc.com discussion board? If it's the latter, it's sort of a smaller "violation" in my mind (that sort of thing is done by folks on SP pretty commonly as well w/o explicit credit); the former is kind of a bigger no-no in my book but I'm not sure which is the case here.

Hey you did get some nice comments on that (kick a..) photo of the Matterhorn!

I guess I'd be p*ssed off if some commercial site was using my shot (no worries there though).

Just my b.s.
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby rpc » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:54 am

....ooops, slow typing fingers.
Martin already said this before I hit "Post".
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Karl Helser » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:26 pm

I've had copyright issues also...........Check out this <A HREF="http://www.summitpost.org/show/mread.pl?f_id=10&t_id=3916">thread</A>
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby dadndave » Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:01 am

Not only is feildtouring right about the deliberate nature of this fraud, but you'd have to wonder about the general professionalism of an outfit like this and it's impact on client's safety and enjoyment.
Edit: Woooow forgot to read the second page before posting - please ignore.
What is this "scientific method" you speak of?
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Corax » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:56 pm

As bad as <a href=//www.expedition.sk><b>this thief</b></a> and all his other mirror sites. He said he was sorry earlier in this thread (see above. submitter: aigisthos), but at the same time he says "he used the photos for good thing". Yeah right Mr Robin Hood.
On top of that he did not delete all of my photos until I reminded him a couple of more times.
He still use photos originally stolen from summitpost. No credits given. Huberschwiller, losdestroy and ppatenall may have given him the go ahead. I don't know. Photos taken by Palic can also be found there, but he seems to have some sort of connection to aigisthos, so I'm sure there's no trouble there.

Dan,
Mail this Mercedario photo thief and ask him what kind of behaviour it is?

A thing to think about is to create a black list of expedition organizers that behave in a rotten way. Summitpost is getting large and influential enough to do that.
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby mconnell » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:57 pm

His apology doesn't make any sense. He claims that he makes websites for other peoples' expeditions. If that is true, why would he need to take photos from here? Why not use the photos from the expeditions that he is putting together web sites for?
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby JScoles » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:29 pm

If you want to hurt him where it counts contact Google and his other sponsore and inform then that his site has unautorized photos on it.

This guy is just a poser kid who want to make a name for himself of course this will come back to bite him in the ass eventually.
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Fred Spicker » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:15 pm

I just did a quick Google Image search and found my Shisha Pangma photo that I have posted at both <a href="http://www.summitpost.org/mountains/photo_link.pl?photo_id=16194&object_id=715&type=mountain&mountain_id=715&route_id=">here at SP</a> and at <a href=" http://www.peakware.com/encyclopedia/pe ... pangma.htm">Peakware.com</a> is being used at at least 9 separate sites - only one of which credits me with the photo, One site references Peakware at the bottom of the page.

And even at Peakware itself, <a href=" http://www.peakware.com/encyclopedia/pe ... pangma.htm">at he mountain page</a> someone has jacked the picture and put advertising on it.

But my favorite is <a href="http://www.spitz-wachau.at/aktuellarchiv/archiv2003/2003_17/2003_17.htm">HERE</a> where some guy has superimposed himself on to the picture.
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby mconnell » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:19 pm

<i>But my favorite is HERE where some guy has superimposed himself on to the picture.</i>

He sure LOOKS like he's dressed for a trip up Shisha Pangma, doesn't he?
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Dave K » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:21 pm

Oh geez Fred, that last example is especially egregious!
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby fieldtouring » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:29 pm

That's Dan Mazurs ad on Peakware (summitclimb) You'll probably find his 'web designer' has done it 'inadvertantly'.

Send an email to: marshall@wildernet.com and tell them, he owns the site and doesn't tolerate copyright baddies.

This seems widespread - I Image Googled Field Touring images and found several more sites using our stuff. As far as expedition.sk is concerned (the culprit who started this thread!) he has made amends as far as Im aware and is in fact going to do some web design for us - he is actually quite talented... Ahh the way the world works.
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Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Nelson » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:40 pm

Dan Mazur's site was 'inadvertantly' using my Kangchenjunga photo without credit, until I <a href="http://www.cybernet1.com/himalaya/kangchenjunga.htm">stumbled on it</a> by chance one day. I sent them an E-mail and they promptly credited me. Mazur apologized and sent me a small Tibetan weaving from Kathmandu. Then they put me on their E-mail contact list.
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Postby Corax » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:13 pm

Here we go again.
This site: http://www.gipfel.iso-gewinde.at/weltberge.html
Jvdm's photo here. Cho Oyu.
Fieldtouring's here. Gasherbrum II.
Radson's here. Muztagh Ata.
Mine here and here and here. Pik Lenin, Ojos del Salado and Pik Razdelaya.
Elias Segovia's here. Tocllaraju.
And so on.
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Postby Roger » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:15 pm

Unless I am mistaken this thread is a waste of time, sure people feel upset that their photos are being used though who is going to police this and to what end?

Does it ultimately matter anyway?

Do people really care?

What happens with the 2nd, 3rd and so on generation photos that get taken from sites and used again on another site and so on.

The way I see it you are chasing your own tail and there are far more important things in life to be concerned with.

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