by PaulGagner » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:05 am
by etai101 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:11 am
FortMental wrote:Holy Crapola! $500? They must think everyone climbing in DNP is made out frikkin' money. But, there it is..... they got enough data showing that the average Denali climber will spend thousands on gear and preparation.... what's an additional $300 on top of the existing $200?
....and you though they were YOUR mountains. Hah!
by Bob Sihler » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:26 pm
these large fee increases will price Americans out of their own parks
Bob Sihler wrote:No, they will price a relative few out of two select peaks.
... maybe this fee increase will mean SP gets flooded with fewer Rainier photos that everyone has already seen hundreds of times. And fewer trip reports about the same route on the same mountain, over and over again.
by simonov » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:40 pm
redneck wrote:The Chief makes excellent points. My reading of the newspapers these days also suggests another huge cost area: salaries and pensions (especially pensions) for public employees. These costs appear to be rising faster than anything else out there.
FortMental wrote:Denali, and the other high peaks of the continental US are a cash cow. Agencies figure to milk them for everything they're worth.... punishment for wanting to get off our asses and getting into the hills.
by Bob Sihler » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:59 pm
FortMental wrote:Denali, and the other high peaks of the continental US are a cash cow. Agencies figure to milk them for everything they're worth. Doesn't matter how... parking fees, summit fees, camping fees, day fees, group fees, backcountry fees, picnic fees, whatever. It's not about managing lands for public good. It's about exploiting them for corporate profit and existential justification.
This fee increase is just a trial until the price point is found. Fees are also, in the most perverse sense possible, punishment for wanting to get off our asses and getting into the hills.
by simonov » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:04 pm
The Chief wrote:Clearly Redneck, folks as yourself would know this had they done so, first hand and not from reading those newspapers.
by simonov » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:07 pm
by kevin trieu » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:21 pm
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