by McCannster » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:24 pm
by sneakyracer » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:42 pm
McCannster wrote:Not sure if anybody has brought this up, but has anybody noticed how climbing (and just outdoor activities in general) are very white dominated? Why is this? Out of the several years I have been climbing, I've only seen a handful of non-white people out in the hills. Of course that doesn't mean that they aren't out there, it's just that they are few and far between. Is it a cultural thing? Why do whites tend to be attracted to climbing? Thoughts?
by JustinShapiro » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:19 pm
FortMental wrote:Ever notice how other sports and pastimes require high sociability? i.e soccer, basketball, softball, etc.... Being outdoors requires, almost demands low sociability. White people kinda suck at being social. Probably a cultural thing. Probably explains why all those backwoods psychos and survivalists are ALWAYS white.
All the same... not many people of color recreate outdoors. Ironically, the only mountaineer I ever knew of from South Africa was black. Go figure.
Signed,
Low sociability white guy
by Sarah Simon » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:29 pm
by haivanhuynh » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:59 pm
by Day Hiker » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:01 pm
1000Pks wrote:Locally we have the MLC SC, which practices and preaches exclusion. Easy to see what and who they like! The SC has a past history of hate, well seen by many of them. Slurs and epithets, hate agitation, bans, boycotts, even violence are their hallmarks. Nazis and KKK are quite welcome in their chapter here, and there is no getting around that.
by gordonye » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:02 pm
by JHH60 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:08 pm
by haivanhuynh » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:11 pm
JHH60 wrote:Are Asians and people from the Indian subcontinent now defined as "white"? Here in Silicon Valley there are a lot of both who climb and/or participate in outdoor sports. In fact in California it doesn't make much sense to talk about "white" or "asian" or ... because there are so many mixed families, including mine. What is the race of this young climber?
by Luciano136 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:14 pm
by Misha » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:19 pm
McCannster wrote:Out of the several years I have been climbing, I've only seen a handful of non-white people out in the hills. Of course that doesn't mean that they aren't out there, it's just that they are few and far between. Is it a cultural thing? Why do whites tend to be attracted to climbing? Thoughts?
by Andinistaloco » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:26 pm
by haivanhuynh » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:28 pm
Misha wrote:McCannster wrote:Out of the several years I have been climbing, I've only seen a handful of non-white people out in the hills. Of course that doesn't mean that they aren't out there, it's just that they are few and far between. Is it a cultural thing? Why do whites tend to be attracted to climbing? Thoughts?
Try going to the Japanese Alps. My bet is you will only see Japanese climbers and many of them
by rhyang » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:37 pm
sarah.simon wrote:I summit peaks with one of the few black female peakbaggers in Colorado Springs. We had this exact talk, appropriately, on the side of a mountain, this past summer.
After hours of chatting we reached...no conclusion, really, at all. People do what they want to do. If the ladies in Waiting to Exhail want to laugh at all the "silly white people" heading out on Friday night, westbound on I-70 toward their Mountainous Mecca, let 'em. Yeah, we talked about socioeconomic issues...and talked about black folks in the south huntin' and fishin' and campin'. We even talked about her intro to backpacking/outdoors (Big Brothers / Big Sisters, followed by serving her country in the Navy) but, in the end, we decided America is a free country and people can do what they want, and so they will. No fire-side (or mountain-side) socialogical chattering could possibly get to the bottom of such an incredibly complex issue.
I say to all "you folks" out there who don't look like me (tall, blue-eyed, etc.) get your asses out into the mountains...if you want! If not, enjoy what you do and do it well.
PS: FortLiberal, you really need to get over your guilt of being a white male. (Were you raised Catholic, too?) In all seriousness, that's a terrible guilt to burden yourself with. Live in the hear-and-now and let bygones be bygones. You're doing no-one a favor by letting darkness fester within.
by JHH60 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:46 pm
rhyang wrote:But here's what I want to know: WTF makes blondes get dreadlocks ??
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2009/04 ... ob-marley/
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