by alleyehave » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:31 am
by kovarpa » Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:04 am
Autoxfil wrote:
Yeah, but hammers are heavy. If I'm climbing ice/mixed and I already have a hammer-headed tool, pitons make sense. But bringing pitons without a hammer doesn't make sense, and hammers are heavy to bring along just in case if there are other options (like nuts).
by ExcitableBoy » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:45 pm
alleyehave wrote:I dont see the weight-to-benefit ratio paying out enough to carry pitons on an alpine climb...
by jrc » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:14 pm
by alleyehave » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:47 am
ExcitibleBoy wrote:alleyehave wrote:I dont see the weight-to-benefit ratio paying out enough to carry pitons on an alpine climb...
KBs, Bugaboos and Lost Arrows can fit into cracks where nothing else will work. Angle pitons will still work in icy cracks that nuts or cams will slip out of. I consider them an essential on all genuine alpine routes.
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