dynamokiev98 wrote:Patrick B wrote:In your opinion there is "more than 75% chance he will doe or be hauled up that freaking mountain with severe consequences.????"
1) There is a chance to die, BUT death vs summits rate since 1990 is 4.4%..Where the hell did you get 75?
2)Please find me a picture of one person getting hauled up mt. Everest. There are hundreds of people attempting to summit during weather windows. If there was someone getting a piggy back ride there owuld be 100s of pictures and stories about it online, who would consent to that emberassment in order to get to the top?
"these mountains were around 2 miles lower than the summit of Everest"
do some research before you talk please..Aconcagua (highest he has been) is 6,962 m, Everest is 8,848 M..1,886M higher. 1KM=1000M 1mile=1,609) so it is about 1mile higher.
Who are you to decide what he can or can't do? Why he is doing it?
Why did you go to mt. Washington?! A guide died there last year, how irresponsible of you to be doing things like that! Or snowboarding?! People die every year skiing/snowboarding! Why do you risk your life?
Sit at home, get some weed, and eat a burger with your buddies while watching family guy! And don't come out of your house, because if you do there is a chance to be hit by a drunk driver! Or be raped by a pedophile! So stay home and watch everything on TV! Enjoy your life!
All of us can have different opinions, but you guys can't speak for this kid. You don't know his intentions, neither do I though. But how many of you stood on top of Denali, Kilimanjaro, Elbrus and Aconcagua?
Sorry for not being super factual. And you're making connections that don't even relate to one another. There is a big difference between crossing the street and Everest. As well as skiing vs. Everest. And I'm not being super factual here. (not) my bad.
The 75% chance thing was more of a bet with myself. And about the two mile thing.... is it really that big OF A DEAL?
This kid should reconsider it. I mean, he has a right to know what he wants to do, but I think someone should tell him its a dangerous thing to do as well and not worth the record.
patb
So you didn't really answer my questions..Going into the mountains is dangerous..also snowboarding is dangerous..why did you ascent mt. washington knowing that people die there almost every year as well? why do you snowboard? knowing that people die every year doing it (more than people who climb). How come you have a choice of choosing a dangerous hobby and he "should think about it?"
I think this "kid" (as you call him, even though you are same age) knows more about high altitude climbing than I and you put together x 3. And he does know it is dangerous obviously. He freaking climbed Denali!!You think he needs your "expert" opinion?
... NSAA - "During the 2004/2005 season, 45 fatalities occurred out of the 56.9 million skier/snowboarder days reported for the season. " In 1993, 129 reached summit of Everest and eight died (ratio of 16:1). And that was its best year of all time. Judging by this I would believe that Everest is a tad bit more dangerous.
According to Mount Washington, Mountain Washington Obsevatory (MWOBS) says that, "The vast majority of the quarter million people who visit the summit each year experience no problems whatsoever. 135 fatalities have occurred on and around Mount Washington since 1849" Once again, it is a little less dangerous.
Of course you are correct in saying that he doesn't need our advice, but I believe someone needs to give it to him anyways. Everesst is dangerous (as proved aboved) and someone in his family should serious just think about it and say no.
patb