yatsek - Jan 28, 2009 12:54 pm - Voted 10/10
wildlifeI like the flora. Any grizzlies/cougars/wolves?
Dmitry Pruss - Jan 28, 2009 1:09 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: wildlifeGrizzlies and wolves are extint and most likely so is lynx. Almost the whole range is a sheep / horse pasture in summer so large predators can't be too visible. Now in late fall, there already isn't a human being for dozens of miles.
yatsek - Jan 28, 2009 1:22 pm - Voted 10/10
wildernessLast part's fine. Were the big predators eradicated by the sheep/horse breeders?
Dmitry Pruss - Jan 28, 2009 5:30 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: wildernessMaybe. Or maybe by cattlemen or hunters. Herding is "granfathered" in the congressional wilderness designation but in practice only some sheepherding operations still continue to use this clause. But there is a lot of recreational activity in summer, especially fishing.
lcarreau - Jan 28, 2009 10:18 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: wildernessThe "lack of predators" seems to be evidenced
by the vast number of moose in the area.
Whoever it was that eradicated grizz and the
wolves evidently failed with the coyotes.
The last time I visited in summer, I saw a
coyote chasing a deer.
yatsek - Jan 29, 2009 12:44 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: wildernessTalking of moose, does it ever happen that the bulls charge at people and get injured/killed? (BTW The kind we have here in Poland or Scandinavia, a bit smaller, is called the elk by the Brits)
lcarreau - Jan 29, 2009 1:05 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: wildernessI believe there were incidents where the bull
moose sensed hikers invading its territory.
However, it's usually the people who get
injured/killed, not the moose.
yatsek - Jan 29, 2009 1:48 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: wildernessLOL Another miss of mine, I often miss words:)
Has anybody ever been killed by a bull moose?
Dmitry Pruss - Jan 29, 2009 6:13 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: wildernessOf course, and by cow moose guarding calves too. The last serious accident I remember in local mountains happened a couple years back in Toll Canyon on the outskirts of Park City. The victim survived because the moose kept hitting the avalanche shovel in his pack as he lay face down, and not so much the body. The rest of the group were up on the trees. The moose was later euthanized so I guess there has been one fatality in the whole story.
lcarreau - Jan 29, 2009 8:35 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: wildernessSo, as the events unraveled in Toll Canyon
... the bell tolled for the moose.
I wonder how many moose live in northern UT ??
Somebody needs to go out and count those guys!
yatsek - Jan 30, 2009 4:24 am - Voted 10/10
Re: wildernessBut a cow doesn't have antlers, does it? So does it - while charging - act more or less like a horse?
Dmitry Pruss - Jan 30, 2009 8:39 am - Hasn't voted
Re: wildernessThey use the hoofs, males and females alike,, and their legs are longer and more powerful than of any other local herbivores.
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