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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:21 pm

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100 Reasons Not to Talk About Global Warming, Ever




No one would be talking about it if the environmentalists weren't trying to shove these down our throats.
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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:24 pm

Nanuls wrote:Have you read that list. If I were a sceptic I would be embarrassed.

Also the Daily Express sucks – even the red tops have more integrity.


kind of an asinine comment unless you actually want to rebut their points one by one
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Postby erykmynn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:25 pm

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erykmynn wrote:
100 Reasons Not to Talk About Global Warming, Ever




No one would be talking about it if the environmentalists weren't trying to shove these down our throats.
whoa now buddy. lets not put environmentalists and AGW all in the same boat. sure, most AGW proponents are environmentalists. but there are AGW proponents that only give a shit about AGW, and there are enviros who are sick of the AGW-BS fest taking center stage.

you'll find quite a few of the latter right here on summitpost. do you hate the environment? if so what are you doing on an outdoors website?

now....

who taught the enviros that they have to shove shit down peoples throat to get things done? makes you wonder.
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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:38 pm

erykmynn wrote:
patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
100 Reasons Not to Talk About Global Warming, Ever




No one would be talking about it if the environmentalists weren't trying to shove these down our throats.
whoa now buddy. lets not put environmentalists and AGW all in the same boat. sure, most AGW proponents are environmentalists. but there are AGW proponents that only give a shit about AGW, and there are enviros who are sick of the AGW-BS fest taking center stage.

you'll find quite a few of the latter right here on summitpost. do you hate the environment? if so what are you doing on an outdoors website?

now....

who taught the enviros that they have to shove shit down peoples throat to get things done? makes you wonder.


I actually am an environmentalist, a paleo-environmentalist. I'm all for conservation, more wilderness areas, protected areas, etc. Your typical environmentalist today will happily fill Yosemite Valley with concrete or chop down all the Redwoods if it that resulted in Cap and Trade and Hybrids for all.
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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:39 pm

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Nanuls wrote:Have you read that list. If I were a sceptic I would be embarrassed.

Also the Daily Express sucks – even the red tops have more integrity.


kind of an asinine comment unless you actually want to rebut their points one by one


No it's not. Some of the points are self-evidently ridiculous, even to those with no training in climate science. They shouldn't have been included, THAT is what is embarassing about the list. A good list would be a proud accomplishment for the anti-AGW crowd, but this is not such a list.


Yeah, some of the points are repetitive, but that doesn't discount the valid ones.
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Postby erykmynn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:39 pm

patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
100 Reasons Not to Talk About Global Warming, Ever




No one would be talking about it if the environmentalists weren't trying to shove these down our throats.
whoa now buddy. lets not put environmentalists and AGW all in the same boat. sure, most AGW proponents are environmentalists. but there are AGW proponents that only give a shit about AGW, and there are enviros who are sick of the AGW-BS fest taking center stage.

you'll find quite a few of the latter right here on summitpost. do you hate the environment? if so what are you doing on an outdoors website?

now....

who taught the enviros that they have to shove shit down peoples throat to get things done? makes you wonder.


I actually am an environmentalist, a paleo-environmentalist. I'm all for conservation, more wilderness areas, protected areas, etc. Your typical environmentalist today will happily fill Yosemite Valley with concrete or chop down all the Redwoods if it that resulted in Cap and Trade and Hybrids for all.
I hate to break it to you, but those people aren't environmentalists.
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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:42 pm

erykmynn wrote:
patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
100 Reasons Not to Talk About Global Warming, Ever




No one would be talking about it if the environmentalists weren't trying to shove these down our throats.
whoa now buddy. lets not put environmentalists and AGW all in the same boat. sure, most AGW proponents are environmentalists. but there are AGW proponents that only give a shit about AGW, and there are enviros who are sick of the AGW-BS fest taking center stage.

you'll find quite a few of the latter right here on summitpost. do you hate the environment? if so what are you doing on an outdoors website?

now....

who taught the enviros that they have to shove shit down peoples throat to get things done? makes you wonder.


I actually am an environmentalist, a paleo-environmentalist. I'm all for conservation, more wilderness areas, protected areas, etc. Your typical environmentalist today will happily fill Yosemite Valley with concrete or chop down all the Redwoods if it that resulted in Cap and Trade and Hybrids for all.
I hate to break it to you, but those people aren't environmentalists.


I'd be curious to see a breakdown of the Sierra Club's budget, whether they spend more money on conservation or on lobbying against emissions. You ask anyone in San Fran what they'd rather have, Cap and Trade or the dismantling of the Hetch Hetchy Dam (I'm looking in your direction, Boxer and Pelosi), I think the poll would be pretty one-sided.
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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:49 pm

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about as one-sided as that ridiculous list you posted. get a life.


Hmm. 158 posts vs. 4000 plus??? I really do beg to differ...
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Postby erykmynn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:56 pm

patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
patssox09 wrote:
erykmynn wrote:
100 Reasons Not to Talk About Global Warming, Ever




No one would be talking about it if the environmentalists weren't trying to shove these down our throats.
whoa now buddy. lets not put environmentalists and AGW all in the same boat. sure, most AGW proponents are environmentalists. but there are AGW proponents that only give a shit about AGW, and there are enviros who are sick of the AGW-BS fest taking center stage.

you'll find quite a few of the latter right here on summitpost. do you hate the environment? if so what are you doing on an outdoors website?

now....

who taught the enviros that they have to shove shit down peoples throat to get things done? makes you wonder.


I actually am an environmentalist, a paleo-environmentalist. I'm all for conservation, more wilderness areas, protected areas, etc. Your typical environmentalist today will happily fill Yosemite Valley with concrete or chop down all the Redwoods if it that resulted in Cap and Trade and Hybrids for all.
I hate to break it to you, but those people aren't environmentalists.


I'd be curious to see a breakdown of the Sierra Club's budget, whether they spend more money on conservation or on lobbying against emissions. You ask anyone in San Fran what they'd rather have, Cap and Trade or the dismantling of the Hetch Hetchy Dam (I'm looking in your direction, Boxer and Pelosi), I think the poll would be pretty one-sided.


Of course San Franciscans want electricity and water. I hardly think everyone that lives in the city is an environmentalist. Go ask the same question in the Sierra foothills. Whats your point?

Where does your electricity come from? your water?

There are a lot of people worried about AGW that aren't environmentalists in the more traditional sense. Trying to prove that a lot of the world is confused or hypocritical is practically a tautology. The Sierra club is a terrible example, nobody likes them anymore (esp MLC SC), and those they do recognize shifts in priorities over the years. <-- as per below i am recognizing the diff. between local and national

and 4000 posts? that's just miketx's way of prevent global warming by letting all his "hot air" out here!
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Postby Castlereagh » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:02 pm

Of course San Franciscans want electricity and water. I hardly think everyone that lives in the city is an environmentalist. Go ask the same question in the Sierra foothills. Whats your point?

Where does your electricity come from? your water?


That's the point. They want us to sacrifice by paying higher taxes, using less electricity, driving shittier cars, etc, so why doesn't Pelosi set an example for the rest of us?
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Postby erykmynn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:05 pm

patssox09 wrote:
Of course San Franciscans want electricity and water. I hardly think everyone that lives in the city is an environmentalist. Go ask the same question in the Sierra foothills. Whats your point?

Where does your electricity come from? your water?


That's the point. They want us to sacrifice by paying higher taxes, using less electricity, driving shittier cars, etc, so why doesn't Pelosi set an example for the rest of us?


sorry, I thought you were lecturing us about environmentalists cramming AGW down our throats. I didn't realize this was just a tirade against politicians and cap and trade.
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