mountainsandsound wrote:The threat posed to livestock is very much overblown. I admire the self-reliance of the old west that continues to this day, but things have changed. We can clear-cut a forest in no time, remove mountaintops, and effectively eliminate a wolf pack virtually overnight. We have nearly 7 billion people in the world in 2012. To ensure our survival as a species it is now ourselves we must subdue and restrain rather than nature.

peninsula wrote:

mountainsandsound wrote:The threat posed to livestock is very much overblown. I admire the self-reliance of the old west that continues to this day, but things have changed. We can clear-cut a forest in no time, remove mountaintops, and effectively eliminate a wolf pack virtually overnight. We have nearly 7 billion people in the world in 2012. To ensure our survival as a species it is now ourselves we must subdue and restrain rather than nature.

Isn't that the truth! Ranchers worry about a few wolves while we humans behave like termites on a biodiversity feeding frenzy. By the time the floors fall out from under us, will it be too late?

mountainsandsound wrote:In Washington there is an ongoing problem of poaching in the Northeast Cascades, specifically the Lookout Pack, which was reduced from 10 wolves to 2 solely through the efforts of poachers.

http://www.conservationnw.org/pressroom ... rainy-pass?

jordansahls wrote:
Wow, that is disgusting. It is one of my dreams to see a wolf out in the North Cascades. I'm just really surprised that I have not heard about the poaching sooner seeing as how i spend a significant amount of time out there.

mountainsandsound wrote:If anyone is interested, Conservation Northwest is a great organization to get involved with. They advocate in WA and OR for wilderness area and wildlife, and provided a necessary counterbalance to the ranching interests when Fish and Wildlife was having public hearings on wolf management strategies. http://www.conservationnw.org/

article wrote:Members of the county's ranching and farming community expressed concerns at the meeting that the state has no set plans in place on how to manage wolves and they worry there won't be enough funding or political will to manage the predators properly. Leo Bergeron, president of the Siskiyou County Water Users Association, urged the county to pass a local law banning wolves from entering the state that would include county officials killing or relocating the animals...Members of the board said they were worried about the threat to ranchers' stock as well as to struggling elk and deer herds. They also expressed worries the federally protected species would mean even more land-use restrictions in an area already coping with limits on agriculture because of threatened coho salmon and still reeling from restrictions on logging because of the spotted owl. "Siskiyou County is inundated with endangered species," Supervisor Michael Kobseff said. In 2001, Siskiyou County's supervisors passed a resolution condemning the introduction of wolves and grizzly bears to the state. The resolution describes bears and wolves "an uncontrollable and deadly threat" to man and livestock.

article wrote:...biologists in Oregon told him, "This is the most controversial subject you'll have in your career."

Leo Bergeron, president of the Siskiyou County Water Users Association, urged the county to pass a local law banning wolves from entering the state that would include county officials killing or relocating the animals...Members of the board said they were worried about the threat to ranchers' stock as well as to struggling elk and deer herds. They also expressed worries the federally protected species would mean even more land-use restrictions in an area already coping with limits on agriculture because of threatened coho salmon and still reeling from restrictions on logging because of the spotted owl. "Siskiyou County is inundated with endangered species," Supervisor Michael Kobseff said.

"Siskiyou County is inundated with endangered species," Supervisor Michael Kobseff said.

seanreedy wrote:As for California's lone wolf, he's been heading south. I went on a nice long hike a couple of weeks ago not too far from where I suspect he is roaming now, in eastern Shasta County.