by mrchad9 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:23 am
by Simon Singer » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:42 am
mrchad9 wrote:Also the driver her could be to increase the vote weight of those who are looking at and thinking about the page, rather than change the behaviors of those that are being polite
by mrchad9 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:56 am
by chugach mtn boy » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:58 am
mrchad9 wrote:1. I grew up far closer to where you grew up than you realize
2. You live further west than me.
by mrchad9 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:03 am
by lcarreau » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:15 am
by Simon Singer » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:28 am
lcarreau wrote:And, if one of those monkeys "down-voted" too often, all you'd have to do is Spank the Monkey ..
by Marmaduke » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:37 am
Josh Lewis wrote:Marmaduke wrote:In fact I might go to Chad's pages and give him a bunch of 8's or maybe even 7's
Feel free to do that on my pages too.
by Bob Sihler » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:03 pm
chugach mtn boy wrote: Let's say I go to Bob Sihler's for dinner. Bob throws some huge steaks on the grill that must have cost a fortune, but he leaves them on a little too long and they get a little dry. Meanwhile, the missus whips up some potato salad that's really pretty good. It would probably be between "Great Work" and "Amazing" on the scale Chad loves to quote. "Susie," I say, "This potato salad is out of this world." Now, I could say something to Bob about the steaks but I'll probably just talk about other stuff, unless he asks me directly. Bob goes for the Glenlivet. It's going to be a good night.
This might just be a regional thing.
mrchad9 wrote:Bob it sounds like you are cognizant of the recent changes but are simply choosing to disregard them? If you are having trouble choosing between a 7 and 8 but then give a page a 10 instead then perhaps this suggestion in the OP will help you make up your mind more easily between the options.
Your explanations are leading me to believe this is a better idea than I had originally believed.
by Scott » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:51 pm
I want to be clear about something... this was not my idea at all... even though I do appear to be defending it. Scott suggested the idea to me and I thought it sounded interesting. I hadn't made up an opinion one way or the other but currently I don't see a lot of problems with it and I do see some benefits.
by mrchad9 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:28 pm
by AlbertoRampini » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:51 pm
by ywardhorner » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:21 pm
by Scott » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:29 pm
To me is it is also much more important that the 'crowded' peaks, those that get a lot of hits, have the best and most accurate information since there are so many people utilizing them.
Anyway, my point is that the voting and page scores are really just nice incentives for the people who make the pages.
by mrchad9 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:36 pm
ywardhorner wrote:As someone who uses SP mostly for route information, can I just say that all the preoccupation with voting and page scores seems a little over the top? I've been using this site for years and when I look up a mountain (for information/pics), only one page is available. So it doesn't matter to me what that mountain's score is and I rarely even notice it. I can't (for example) choose between a Shasta page rated 98% versus a different Shasta page rated only 72%. I get the one Shasta page and take the info available and read all the relevant trip reports. Any info available is going to be cross-checked against maps and guidebooks and other sources anyway. I'm usually looking for pics and personal experiences with the route in question.
Anyway, my point is that the voting and page scores are really just nice incentives for the people who make the pages. Anyone who makes a page is going to appreciate some feedback and enjoy knowing their efforts didn't go unnoticed. But to someone simply looking for information about a mountain, the score and the number of votes don't make much difference. So I can't see why micromanaging the votes with ever more complicated algorithmns is really that important? Why not spend the time adding useful features to the site?
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