Are the LS. Spantiks warm enough without overboots for Denali? I would like to avoid purchasing overboots if im spending 600 on the boots.

Thanks,
Tim

timfoltz wrote:Are the LS. Spantiks warm enough without overboots for Denali? I would like to avoid purchasing overboots if im spending 600 on the boots.

Thanks,
Tim

Probably not. Maybe if you are going in June, but I would not take that chance. I have heard from several people that the spantiks are borderline warm enough for Denali in May, but they work.

That said, it's still a great boot and should be fine with an over boot. My reasoning was it's not going to be worse than any other boot with an over boot on and it's going to climb technical stuff much better on it's own. my $0.02.

There are several threads on this exact topic.

Regardless of how much you spend on boots, unless they're designed for super cold weather like Millet Everests, would you want to gamble all that hard work, time, money and possibly your toes on cold feet?

I bought Spantiks for my Denali trip this May. Many of the guide companies(RMI, Mountain Trip, AMG) now list them as a boot suitable for Denali in May, with overboots. There are many on this board that have climbed Denali in them. I did a lot of research prior to buying mine. (Although I did get mine in a fire sale on EBAY for $270 ! )

FortMental wrote:$600 for boots? Holy freaking crap! Save your money and pick up a used set of Koflachs Arctis' for a fraction of that. Spend the difference on "Ice Picks" at the West Butt in Talkeetna.

Not that I know anything about high-altitude climbing, but going with this advice, there's several pair of Koflach Arctis on ebay for under $200.

There are few other GEAR questions that raise so many opinions that boots!

AS I said, lots of opinions! Your review said you used the Brooks overboots. I was thinking of the 40 below K2. Also, I got a great deal on my boots (270) and LOVE how they work on mixed and all out snow slopes. I did not care for how the plastics I had edges. These boots seem to fit the bill FOR ME. Although, I won't know till May about the warmth at Denali Pass. Scott

Hey....any person is different....but the Spantik were designed for monutains in the 7000 meters range...LS feels confident about this.
Also Steve House climbed with those the Rupal Face...and the Spantik is what he uses for high altitude technical climbing.
One of my friends used them ice climbing recently, in -20F and he said that the only warm thing that day were his feet....

House did not use them on the Rupal, just in the gear review he did for LA. Tricky and somewhat deceptive advertising on their part! But I agree, we are all different.

ScottyP wrote:House did not use them on the Rupal, just in the gear review he did for LA. Tricky and somewhat deceptive advertising on their part! But I agree, we are all different.

Strange ideed in the Patagonia gear review he prepared and showed on the web he shows the Spantik....

I know I saw that. Big discussion on CC and some of the photos it is obvious he is not wearing th Spantiks. He wore the Nuptse.

New question, I cant find the spantiks anywhere on sale for less than ~600. I can however find the baruntse's for reasonable prices. Since i will be going with overboots anyways, would these be sufficient for Denali? They are toted to be designed for 5-6000 metres. Also, I feel these would have a longer season in Colorado than the spantiks for before and after Denali.

I was told at the Mountaineer that the Baruntse is at least as warm as the Spantik, just less technical and without the fancy laces.

BTW, GearTrade has new Spantiks for cheap, under $400. Keep an eye out for your size. You don't wear a 44, do you? I wish I did:

http://www.geartrade.com/item/113194