Buz Groshong wrote:Per the U.S. copyright law (I believe this web site is hosted in the U.S.):

"(a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship include the following categories:

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and

8 architectural works."..

Sod it. I have just completed a full size replica of the Statue of Liberty to put in my back yard......

The objector says he "registered" the title "Forbidden Mountains" in contrast to the article which refers to "Forbidden Mountain" singular, so what's the problem? Precision is pretty important in intellectual property matters. I wonder where (which country) he supposedly registered his book title as opposed to placing the book itself for copyright protection?

The two words have such such universal coinage, almost attaining the status of cliche, that it seems highly unlikely they could be validly copyrighted.

Too bad this guy pulled his admirable contributions. Sounds like at bottom it could be a rivalry sort of thing with Alex.

Too bad I didn't copyright "Greatest Hits" when I had the chance, I'd be a millionaire off the royalties for people using my title.

Both of these guys are trying to promote a highly sought after peak. The irony here is that both are Russian guides promoting a peak in Georgia, which is illegal for them to guide on. However, in Russia, I'm sure they have their ways of getting to that peak. Think $$$.

When I climbed Elbrus a couple years ago, Ushba was also on our itinerary. However, after hearing from the Russian host that it is illegal and that you will likely to get shot by attempting to cross the border, we aborted. My climbing partner contacted Alex regarding Ushba and was told that he'll take us, for a large fee.

I'm certain there's more to this conflict than bickering about copyright material. I absolutely hate it when business and money gets in the way of climbing mountains. I really hope these guys resolve their differences as they are good resources for mountains in the Caucasus region.

I think it depends on whether one climbs Ushba via the North Face, or the South Butt.

Bryan Benn wrote:

Buz Groshong wrote:Per the U.S. copyright law (I believe this web site is hosted in the U.S.):

"(a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship include the following categories:

1 - 7 edited out by Bryan Benn

and

8 architectural works."..

Sod it. I have just completed a full size replica of the Statue of Liberty to put in my back yard......

I think the copyright on that has run out. Anyway, it was a gift from the frogs, so they would own the copyright. Screw 'em, make as many copies as you want!

Buz Groshong wrote:

Bryan Benn wrote:

Buz Groshong wrote:Per the U.S. copyright law (I believe this web site is hosted in the U.S.):

"(a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship include the following categories:

1 - 7 edited out by Bryan Benn

and

8 architectural works."..

Sod it. I have just completed a full size replica of the Statue of Liberty to put in my back yard......

I think the copyright on that has run out. Anyway, it was a gift from the frogs, so they would own the copyright. Screw 'em, make as many copies as you want!

Made by the frogs?

Yuk. I'll be out smashing up my replica shortly.

Mountain Impulse wrote:The objector says he "registered" the title "Forbidden Mountains" in contrast to the article which refers to "Forbidden Mountain" singular, so what's the problem? Precision is pretty important in intellectual property matters. I wonder where (which country) he supposedly registered his book title as opposed to placing the book itself for copyright protection?

The two words have such such universal coinage, almost attaining the status of cliche, that it seems highly unlikely they could be validly copyrighted.

Too bad this guy pulled his admirable contributions. Sounds like at bottom it could be a rivalry sort of thing with Alex.

You can only file for a copyright on something which is your own original creation. Two words just ain't gonna' stand up! If someone can show that the two words were used in combination before you did, the copyright is going to be held invalid. Hell, I doubt they'd let you register it in the first place.

Depends on the salaries of your lawyers:
http://www.lvrj.com/business/dispute-se ... 18002.html

Salary has nothing to do with it, even a paralegal knows the difference between trademark and copyright

"Forbidden Mountain" has TM after the name on a Disney list.