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Visoka Rateska Ponca / Ponza Grande
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Visoka Rateska Ponca / Ponza Grande

 
Visoka Rateska Ponca / Ponza Grande

Page Type: Mountain/Rock

Location: Julian Alps, Italy/Slovenia, Europe

Lat/Lon: 46.45959°N / 13.69781°E

Object Title: Visoka Rateska Ponca / Ponza Grande

Activities: Mountaineering, Trad Climbing

Season: Summer, Fall

Elevation: 7460 ft / 2274 m

 

Page By: Vid Pogachnik

Created/Edited: Sep 14, 2004 / Oct 3, 2012

Object ID: 153082

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What's New On This Page?

December 7th, 2007 - Pictures attached, some more text added.
> October 31st, 2004 - Link to the Mangart & Jalovec subgroup page inserted.
> September 14th, 2004 - Initial setup of the page.

Overview

 
Rateske Ponce
Ponce crest from the SE

Between Mangart and Jalovec from the Main Julian Alps crest a strong side crest goes towards the north. Attached to the main crest on V Koncu špica, 2350m, it goes over the strong Vevnica, 2340m, Strug, 2265m, Zadnja Ponca, 2265m, Srednja Ponca, 2228m to Visoka Ponca, which is the last high mountain in this wall. More towards the north it drops significantly to Vratica notch, 1844m, above which Mala Ponca, 1925m, stands and then the crest gets lost in the woods above the upper Sava valley. So, the more narrow group is formed by three peaks (Zadnja=Rear, Srednja=Middle and Visoka=High), where the northernmost is the highest and most impressive one.

The name Ponca appears in Slovenian mountains in two cases - in both it is an abbreviation of 'poldnica', which means 'noon peak' - because in a certain village, in this case Rateče, the sun at noon is above that peak.

Below Ponca there are sources ov Sava river. It first comes out on slopes above Tamar meadows, gets lost in sand and appears again near Rateče village in a beautiful marsh, called Zelenci. This part of Sava valley is protected as a small natural parc. So, while Planica valley, lying east of Ponce chain, belongs to Sava, then waters from western slopes gather in beautiful Belopeška jezera / Laghi di Fusine and then flow further to Ziljica and north into Drava river.

Another distinctive feature of Ponce and Planica valley is world wide known. It's a huge device for ski-flying, the biggest monster of its kind, where most of world records in last years were achieved.

The summit can be reached by marked paths, which are not easy. They require good condition and some experience in high mountain terrain. On some rock sections these routes are secured with steel ropes and pegs. Although quite rocky, walls of Ponca are not popular with those, who seek hard climbs. There are many easy climbs possible (up to degree III or IV), but for harder climbs walls are not consistently solid, high and steep enough.

How Velika Ponca Looks Like

 
From the summit of Mojstrovka...
From the SE

As said, from the east and south-east Visoka Ponca appears at the end of the long crest, coming from V Koncu špica. The slopes of the crest are steep, but also partly overgrown with dwarf-pines. Especially below the summit of Srednja Ponca, these slopes are not so steep, there the normal ascent from Planica valley comes up.

 
Visoka Rateska Ponca portrait
From the east

The eastern and north-eastern slopes are more wild. They are mainly rocky and no normal ascent goes there up. It was here, where a local guide challenged Julius Kugy if he can do the ascent up. To because of being too hard as a climb, but because a narrow passage would be impossible for a strong man as Julius was.

The guy did the passage and sat on the other side, like somebody who bought the best seat in a theatre. But the show was short. Julius thought that if he had once won the bet to come out through a small window in Matterhorn hut, also this passage should not pose him a problem. Indeed he was through in seconds, continuing climbing and leaving the spectator to measure with eyes again and again the narrow passage and the big posture of Kugy.

 
Visoka Ponca at sunset
From the west

The western side of Visoka Ponca is quite rocky. Also here a not so hard route comes up towards Srednja Ponca, but the rocks of Visoka Ponca are more powerful. Especially beautiful are they seen in the evening sun from Trbiž/Tarvisio and surroundings. No need to describe - see rather the beautiful picture of Saša on the left.

Summit Views

 
Mangart from Visoka Ponca.<br />
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Mangart
 
On the summit of Srednja...
Towards Jalovec

Due to its position, quite remote towards north, Visoka Rateska Ponca is a perfect panorama mountain. From its summit the most beautiful view is towards mangart, which shows its huge northern wall. Along the long Ponce crest the view goes to Jalovec at its end. Towards the south-east, above Tamar valley we have the northern walls of Mojstrovke and Travnik. Behind them the highest peaks of Julian Alps are rising. And towards the north the view is opened.

Ski flying

Currently the world record in ski jumping (better to talk of ski flying, which is really a special discipline) is 239m (Bjoern Einar Romoeren, 2005). If we would choose a national sport in Slovenia, it would probably be ski-flying. Each year there's a competition on these devices (not every year on the giant one) and it's a special experience to climb after the competition the top of the biggest jumping device. Busses deep below are tiny, you can hardly distinguish people, and still, if you imagine, there are people, rushing down from this device in a few seconds.

I remember a few years ago, watching Eurosport with two English commentators, and the event was a team competition on the big monster (as the two said). In the team of Poland (who had at that time far the best man - Adam Malysz) on Friday one of four team members was injured or ill. And the coach simply called a young, 19-year old guy, who had never tried a big hill before. There's a huge gap between devices of 110m and this one with more than 200m. It meant: 'Son, get packed and come tomorrow to compete on the 200m hill'. And one of commentators said: 'That was a tough phone call!!!" And the guy came, flew of course his personal best and decently helped the team.

Link: Planica (in English)

Getting There


Mangart & Jalovec subgroup with the main summits and huts.

For the general orientation see the Julian Alps group page and the Mangart & Jalovec subgroup page!

For the east ascent you must reach Ratece village in Sava valley and drive in Planica side valley to Tamar alpine meadow, where the trailhead starts. The upper Sava valley can be reached from the Central Slovenia (via Jesenice), from Italy (via Tarvisio) or from Austria (via Karavanke tunnel or one of passes over Karavanke ridge).

For the west ascent you must reach Belopeska jezera / Laghi di Fusine below Mangart. Driving from Tarvisio (highway exit), you reach Bela pec / Fusine and take a good, narrow road towards south.

Maps:
Julijske Alpe - Zahodni del. Planinska zveza Slovenije. 1:50000
Tabacco: Alpi Giulie Occidentali Tarvisiano. No: 019. 1:25000 (very good!)

Routes Overview


Ponce ridge and some of main routes.

Normal (not hard climbing) routes


Just to access the summit you can choose between the east and west approach (both routes are marked and in good condition). Far the most rewarding tour is crossing the whole chain from Vevnica and to descend by one of the two options (usually towards west).

1. South-east route. In Tamar (a few minutes past the hut) you turn west and choose the marked path on Srednja Ponca. From there by the ridge north to Visoka Ponca. 4-5h.

2. West route. From the parking place at the lake you go to Rif. Zacchi and from there climb towards east. Before reaching the summit ridge the marked path branches. Take the left route (harder) and climb by the ferrata to the summit. The right route ascends towards Srednja Ponca, but just before the ridge also branches. By the right path you reach Srednja Ponca, by the left path you reach Planiska skrbina (notch) and further towards north Visoka Ponca. From Rif. Zacchi 3h 30min, from parking place 4h 30min.

3. Crossing the Ponce crest. You start on the western side on the parking place by the lake. Take the marked path towards south to the entrance of Via della Vita (ferrata). Climb Vevnica by the ferrata (hard). Continue by the ridge towards north. Cross the whole crest - over Strug, Zadnja Ponca, Srednja Ponca to Visoka Ponca. Descent towards west to your car. This is one of the most beautiful routes in Julian Alps (but only for experienced)! The tour would take you some 9h.

Some climbing routes


Visoka Ponca, 2274m:

> N ridge from Vratica notch: III+, 450 m, 3h.
> Raz, Filip Bence,21.06.1998: V/III-IV,400 m, 1.30 h.
> Carpe Diem, Filip Bence–Klemen Premrl, 11.07.1998: VI/III-V, 400 m, 3 h.
> Lastovka, Filip Bence, 01.08.1998: V+/IV, 300 m,1.30 h.
> Tetiva, Filip Bence, 21.08.1998: VI/IV-V, 350 m , 2 h.
> Kiks, Filip Bence–Švab Erik, 23.08.1998: VI/IV-V+, 350 m, 4 h.

Srednja Ponca, 2228m:

Meseceva, Irena Mrak–Mojca Švajger, 12.02.2006: 50-85°, IV, 700 m, 6 h.
Prgarana, Irena Mrak–Mojca Švajger, 26.03.2006: 50-70° (90°), IV, 800 m, 8 h.

Zadnja Ponca, 2242m:

> Viharniska, Filip Bence–Peter Podgornik, 09.02.1997: snow 45-80°, VI/V, 850 m, 6 h.
> Desni krak Zamorèka, Filip Bence, 23.02.1997: snow 70-80°, VI/V+, 400 m, 2 h.
> Iglca, Filip Bence, 08.03.1997: in snow 50°- 85°, V+/IV, 800 m, 2 h.
> Sreca, Filip Bence, 29.12.1997: in snow 30-70°, IV/III, 700 m, 1.30 h.
> Direct Routhe with Viharniska, Irena Mrak-G.Willis, 22.01.2006: in snow 50-80°, IV, 800 m, 6 h.

Red Tape

The mountain is in the Triglav National Parc, otherwise no limitations.

When To Climb

In summer and autumn - the best months are July to October.

For weather see here.

Even better site is wunderground - here's the direct link to Kredarica station, 2515m (below Triglav summit).

Camping

The two useful huts are:

Dom v Tamrju, 1108m, (04) 5876055,
Rif. Luigi Zacchi, 1380m, 0428.61195.

Images