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Alps - Eastern Part

 
Alps - Eastern Part

Page Type: Area/Range

Location: European Alps, Austria/Germany/Italy/Slovenia, Europe

Lat/Lon: 46.36000°N / 9.83000°E

Object Title: Alps - Eastern Part

Activities: Hiking, Mountaineering, Trad Climbing, Sport Climbing, Toprope, Bouldering, Ice Climbing, Aid Climbing, Big Wall, Mixed, Scrambling, Via Ferrata, Canyoneering, Skiing

Season: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter

Elevation: 13280 ft / 4048 m

 

Page By: Vid Pogachnik

Created/Edited: May 31, 2004 / Sep 22, 2009

Object ID: 152667

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Page Score: 99.56%  - 118 Votes 

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What's New On This Page?

June 5th, 2008 - Link to Livigno Alps page inserted
> December 7th, 2007 - Link to the new page inserted: Lechquellengebirge.
> July 17th, 2007 - A few errors on the NE side corrected.
> June 2nd, 2007 - Link to the new page inserted: Gutensteiner Alpen.

Eastern Alps Overview

 
Alps and Clouds Below
Zugspitze

As Eastern Alps do not reach the altitude found in Western Alps, in these groups respectively smaller areas are covered with glaciers. Still in groups: Bernina, Ortler, Oetztal, Hohe Tauern and many others we can find broad glacier areas. On the other hand rock walls of Eastern Alps are as high as those in the western part, offering great rock climbing possibilities.

According to this proposal the border between western and eastern part of Alps should go: Lago di Como - north to Valle di Spluga and to the pass - further north by the Rhine valley to Bodensee. The highest mountain of Eastern Alps is Piz Bernina, 4048m.

Roughly mountain groups of Eastern Alps run in the west-east direction in three big mountain ranges:
1. Northern Limestone Alps
2. Central Range
3. Southern Limestone Alps

Their characters are very different. While the northern and southern limestone chains consist of sharp, rugged peaks in high areas and of grassy or partly rocky peaks in lower areas, the central range is sharp, wild and covered with glaciers on its high areas and mild and hilly on its lower areas.

Interactive Map

Rhaetian AlpsKamnik and Savinja / Steiner AlpsKaravanke/KarawankenJulian AlpsLavanttal AlpsGurktal Alps / NockbergeStuhleck (East of Mur Alps)Klosterwappen (Rax - Schneeberg Group)Gutenstein AlpsHochschwab (Hochschwab Group)Ennstal AlpsTraunstein (Oberoesterreich Forealps)Oetscher (Ybbstal Alps)Hoher Dachstein (Dachstein Gebirge)TennengebirgeNiedere TauernGailtal AlpsCarnic AlpsDolomitesHohe TauernBerchtesgaden AlpsSteinbergeKaisergebirgeZillertal AlpsTux AlpsLagorai GroupPrealpi Venete e TrentineBaldo-Altissimo GroupBrenta GroupNonsberg Group Sarntal Alps / Monti SarentiniStubai AlpsOetztal AlpsAdamello Group (Adamello-Presanella Group)Alpi OrobiePrealpi LombardeVal Masino AlpsBernina GroupPiz Languard (Livigno Alps)Ortler-Cevedale GroupValle Spluga (Oberhalbstein Alps)Piz Kesch (Albula Alps)Sesvenna GroupSilvretta GroupSchesaplana (Raetikon)Verwall GroupSamnaun GroupAllgaeu AlpsLechtal AlpsAmmergau AlpsWettersteinKarwendelHochiss (Rofan Group)Bavarian Pre-AlpsGamsfeld (Salzkammergut Berge)WienerwaldGrosser PrielLechquellengebirgeMieming Range
Eastern Alps interactive map: Point on symbols to see mountain (group) names, click on them to get SummitPost pages!

The Rationale Of This Page

 
Spectacle in the Kingdom of Triglav
Triglav sunset by Velebit

I am the first advocate of the principle that on SummitPost the vast majority of pages should refer to distinct mountains. But as the number of mountain pages is growing it is more and more hard to find the relevant information.

One interesting aspect of organizing SP pages is the geographical one. But our first job is to find agreement among SP members about the structure of mountain groups. Our experience with Dolomites was great. There we agreed on the structure of subgroups, after that agreement a great work was done on further subgroup pages and on pages of distinct mountains. So, ideally in future we shall perhaps have the following structure:

Alps (Eastern) page -> groups pages -> subgroups pages -> mountains pages -> (routes pages)

So I would like to offer SP members an option to start 'travelling' through Alps by simply clicking on the map above. This will bring you on mountain groups, if they are big enough and well organised, they will allow you to travel further to subgroups. And from there you will go to distinct mountain pages, which is what you initially wanted. And you may allways use links to go up the mentioned geographical hierarchy.

And, I must admit, one purpose of this page is also to set a model how to structure bigger mountain areas on SP. Knowing for example almost nothing about mountains of East Africa, I would with great pleasure 'travel' through them on such a geographical way.

The Present Structure

 
Three Towers in the Dawn
Langkofel Group

For a start of Alps grouping structure I used Mathias Zehring's proposal, using bigger mountain groups, whenever appropriate (e.g. Dolomites, Hohe Tauern). I shall be more than happy to change this structure if our discussion will lead towards a better solution. So please give me your feedback, here or on the Europe discussion board. Just make a note, for example: "In Silvretta group link to Piz Linard instead of Piz Buin" or propose a new grouping structure. I shall also track changes on SP and adapt the interactive map to newly occuring SP pages.

1. Mountain groups, represented on SP with their own group page are indicated on the map with the group symbol. It links to the relevant SP group page. There's also one broad group in the western part - the Rhaetian Alps group.

2. Currently the majority of groups doesn't have their group page on SP yet. In these cases I linked to the highest summit of the group, if it has its own SP page, or to any other summit, belonging to that mountain group. Once you find yourself in the area it will not be hard to find other nearby mountains.

3. For some mountain groups I couldn't find any SP mountain page. For these, there's no symbol on the map.

Because changing the map, uploading it on SP and making appropriate links is a tedious job, I shall implement changes only after more proposals are agreed upon.

A Table of Groups, Highest Summits and Current SP Links

Eastern Alps GroupHighest SummitCurrent SP Link
BregenzerwaldGlatthorn (2134 m)none
Allgaeu AlpsGrosser Krottenkopf (2657 m)Allgaeu Alps
Lechquellen GroupUntere Wildgrubenspitze (2753 m)Lechquellengebirge
Lechtal AlpsParseierspitze (3036 m)Lechtal Alps
WettersteinZugspitze (2963 m)Wettersteingebirge
Mieming RangeHochplattig (2768 m)Mieming Range
KarwendelBirkkarspitze (2749 m)Karwendel
RofanHochiss (2299 m)Hochiss (2299 m)
Ammergau AlpsDaniel (2342 m)Ammergau Alps
Bavarian Pre-AlpsKrottenkopf (2086 m)Bavarian Pre-Alps
KaiserEllmauer Halt (2344 m)Kaisergebirge
SteinbergeBirnhorn (2634 m)Steinberge
Berchtesgaden AlpsHochkoenig (2941 m)Berchtesgaden Alps
Chiemgau AlpsSonntagshorn (1961 m)none
Salzburger SchieferalpenHundsstein (2117 m)none
TennengebirgeRaucheck (2431 m)Tennengebirge
Dachstein GroupHoher Dachstein (2995 m)Hoher Dachstein (2995 m)
Totes GebirgeGrosser Priel (2523 m)Grosser Priel (2523m)
Ennstal AlpsHochtor (2365 m)Ennstal Alps
SalzkammergutGamsfeld (2028 m)Gamsfeld (2028 m)
Oberoesterreich ForealpsHohe Nock (1963 m)Traunstein (1691 m)
Hochschwab GroupHochschwab (2277 m)Hochschwab (2277 m)
Muerzsteg AlpsHohe Veitsch (1981 m)Hohe Veitsch (1981 m)
Rax-Schneeberg GroupKlosterwappen (2076 m)Klosterwappen (2076 m)
Ybbstal AlpsHochstadl (1919 m)Oetscher (1893 m)
Tuernitz AlpsGrosser Sulzberg (1400 m)none
Gutenstein AlpsReisalpe (1399 m)Gutensteiner Alpen
WienerwaldSchoepfl (893 m)Wienerwald
RaetikonSchesaplana (2965 m)Schesaplana (2965 m)
SilvrettaPiz Linard (3411 m)Silvretta Group
Samnaun GroupMuttler (3294 m)Samnaun Group
Ferwall GroupHoher Riffler (3168 m)Ferwall Group
Sesvenna GroupPiz Sesvenna (3205 m)Sesvenna Group
Oetztal AlpsWildspitze (3770 m)Oetztal Alps
Stubai AlpsZuckerhuetl (3505 m)Stubai Alps
Sarntal AlpsHirzer (2741 m)Sarntal Alps
Tux AlpsLizumer Reckner (2884 m)Tux Alps
Kitzbuehel AlpsKreuzjoch (2558 m)none
Zillertal AlpsHochfeiler (3510 m)Zillertal Alps
Hohe TauernGrossglockner (3798 m)Hohe Tauern
Niedere TauernHochgolling (2863 m)Niedere Tauern
Gurktal Alps/NockbergeEisenhut (2441 m)Gurktal Alps/Nockberge
Lavanttal AlpsZirbitzkogel (2396 m)Lavanttal Alps
East of Mur ForealpsStuhleck (1782 m)Stuhleck (1782 m)
Ortler AlpsOrtler (3905 m)Ortler-Cevedale Group
Sobretta-Gavia GroupMonte Sobretta (3296 m)none
Nonsberg GroupGrosse Laugenspitze (2433 m)Nonsberg Group
Adamello-Presanella AlpsCima Presanella (3556 m)Cima Presanella (3556 m)
Lago di Garda GroupMonte Cadria (2254 m)Monte Baldo / Altissimo (2218 m)
Brenta GroupCima Tosa (3173 m)Brenta Group
DolomitesMarmolada - Punta Penia (3342 m)Dolomites
Lagorai GroupCima d'Asta (2847 m)Lagorai
Prealpe Venete e TrentineCima Dodici (2336 m)Prealpe Venete e Trentine
Gailtal AlpsGrosse Sandspitze (2770 m)Gailtal Alps
Carnic AlpsHohe Warte (2780 m)Carnic Alps
Julian AlpsTriglav (2864 m)Julian Alps
KaravankeStol/Hochstuhl (2237 m)Karavanke/Karawanken
Kamnik and Savinja / Steiner AlpsGrintovec (2558 m)Kamnik and Savinja / Steiner Alps
Plessura AlpsAroser Rothorn (2980 m)Mattjisch Horn (2460m)
Oberhalbstein AlpsPiz Platta (3392 m)Valle Spluga GROUP
Albula AlpsPiz Kesch (3418 m)Piz Kesch (3418 m)
Bernina AlpsPiz Bernina (4049 m)Bernina Group
Val Masino AlpsMonte Disgrazia (3678m)Val Masino Alps
Livigno AlpsCima dei Piazzi (3439 m)Livigno Alps
Lombardia Fore-AlpsPizzo della Presolana (2521 m)Prealpi Lombarde
Alpi OrobiePizzo di Coca (3050 m)Alpi Orobie

Other Information About Eastern Alps

Of course it would be nice to have also here on SP summarised some general information about broader mountain areas. Especially a geological overview would be useful, showing the variety of these summits and their different characters. You are all welcome to contribute, but have in mind to stay short as this page is only the starting point for SP membears to search. I'm also not sure if this page is the place to attach pictures to - probably it is not.

Language Variety in Eastern Alps

Brenta, our member in a good discussion about naming mountains in Alps wrote a nice description of this topic and agreed to copy a part of it here:

... The first people there of which we have historical records are the Raetii. There is no consensus on whether they spoke a language related to Etruscan or one of the Celtic family. Not even clear they should be considered one people. The Roman conquest was followed by colonization, which made Latin the spoken language. In the sixth century, as a result of the dissolution of the Roman central power, a kingdom of Bavaria formed, which included the region now known as Alto Adige/Suedtirol. The border was a line that was easy to defend. German-speaking people moved in, and the few surviving speakers of Latin retired to out-of-the-way valleys developing, over time, what is now Ladin. The ethnic and linguistic makeups of the region haven't shifted much since then, as far as I can gather, in spite of the many political changes. ...

The More Remote History of This Page

> May 14th, 2007 - Links to new pages inserted: Kaisergebirge, Wienerwald.
> November 24th, 2006 - Links to new pages inserted: Tux Alps, Prealpe Venete e Trentine, Bavarian Pre-Alps, Mieming Range.
> May 20th, 2006 - Links to new pages inserted: Silvretta, Sarntal Alps, Ennstal Alps and Oetscher.
> March 28th, 2006 - Links to two new group pages inserted: Samnaun and Ferwall.
> March 18th, 2006 - Significant updates according to novelties, brought by SPv2.
January 18th, 2006 - Links to the new pages inserted: Stubai Alps GROUP, Zillertal Alps GROUP, Monte Baldo / Altissimo.
December 3rd, 2005 - Links to the new Grosser Ifinger page inserted.
October 3rd, 2005 - Links to the new Stuhleck page inserted.
September 28th, 2005 - Links to the new Birnhorn page inserted.
August 31st, 2005 - Links to the new Ammergau Alps GROUP page inserted.
August 30th, 2005 - Links to the new Allgaeu Alps GROUP page inserted.
August 19th, 2005 - Linked Patscherkofel to represent the Tux Alps.
July 23rd, 2005 - Switched the link from Sulzfluh to the new Schesaplana page to represent Raetikon.
June 8th, 2005 - Links to the Cima Carega (Prealpi Veneti / Vicenza Alps) and Daniel (Ammergau Alps) page inserted.
June 4th, 2005 - Link to the new Cima Carega page inserted (only in the table).
April 18th, 2005 - Link to the new Lagorai page inserted, link on the map to the new Oetztal Alps GROUP.
March 2nd, 2005 - Link to the new Berchtesgaden Alps GROUP page inserted.
February 21st, 2005 - Link to the new Piz Kesch page inserted, representing Albula Alps.
December 26th, 2004 - New map with the Gailtal Alps GROUP, links to Piz Linard, now representing Silvretta.
December 20th, 2004 - Links to the new Gailtal Alps GROUP page inserted. Map still unchanged.
December 1st, 2004 - A chapter about linguistic variety inserted.
November 10th, 2004 - Links to the new Carnic Alps GROUP page inserted.
October 21st, 2004 - Links to the new Pizzo di Coca page inserted, to represent Alpi Orobie.
October 17th, 2004 - Link to the new Gurktal Alps / Nockberge GROUP page inserted. Map changed with links to this page and to the Lavanttal Alps GROUP page.
October 11th, 2004 - Link to the new Lavanttal Alps GROUP inserted. Map still unchanged.
September 3rd, 2004 - Interactive map updated with links: Grigne (Prealpi Lombarde), Arco & Val di Sarca climbing area (Lago di Garda Group), Pizzo del Diavolo di Tenda (Alpi Orobie). These respective links also added to the table.
August 20th, 2004 - Inserted link to the new Reisskofel page, to represent Gailtal Alps. Interactive map updated with links: Reisskofel (Gailtal Alps), Koenigstuhl (Nockgebirge), Furggler (Samnaun Group).
August 7th, 2004 - Inserted link to Furggler in table, to represent Samnaun Group (map not changed).
June 27th, 2004 - Inserted link to Koenigstuhl in table, to represent Nockberge (map not changed).
June 25th, 2004 - Interactive map updated (Niedere Tauern GROUP, Carnia Alps GROUP, Ortler/Ortles GROUP, Val Masino Alps GROUP, Seeboedenspitze).
June 5th, 2004 - Link to the Niedere Tauern GROUP, map still not changed.
June 2nd, 2004 - Interactve picture enhance (to show also mountain groups when pointing to symbols); plan for next steps.
May 31st, 2004 - Initial set up of the page.
 
360° Panorama - 1000 summits
Eastern Alps Panorama

External Links

  • Eastern Alps
    this is the official structure of Alps
  • Klettersteige Ostalpen
    Via-Ferrata.de - Klettersteigportal - Over 100 fixed rope routes. Moreover detailed information over climbing, alps, hiking and other outdoor activities.
  • overview map
    of the mountain groups of the eastern alps
  • Steinmandl.de
    Lots of tour descriptions and pictures for the northern and central eastern Alps (Wetterstein, Karwendel, Kaiser, Ötztaler, Stubaier etc.) - In German
  • Austrian Map online
    Online digital maps of Austria (OEK 50, OEK 200 and OEK 500) by the BEV (Bundesamt für Eich- und Vermessungswesen) - in German

Additions and Corrections

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mvscool page

mvs

Voted 10/10

Hi, could you update the interactive map and chart to signal the Bavarian Pre-Alps page. It doesn't have an owner, but there is a growing collection of peaks under it, a fair number more than the lone Krottenkopf that is standing in for this whole area.

thx!

--Michael



Posted May 26, 2006 1:15 pm
Vid PogachnikRe: cool page

Vid Pogachnik

Hasn't voted

Hm, yes Michael, but still, your request makes me some pain.



You know the principle - on the map group pages are represented. In this case it's Bavarian Pre-Alps. As this page is still empty, I can't link to it. In such cases I link to the highest summit page, which is in this case Krottenkopf. I can't link to more mountains, even if there are pages of them. Yes, I saw you submitted and initiated a lot of nice summit pages. But they need to be encompassed in one group page.
Posted May 26, 2006 9:09 pm
mvsRe: cool page

mvs

Voted 10/10

Okay, I will take ownership of Bavarian pre-alps page soon, and that will give us a solution. thx!
Posted May 27, 2006 6:37 am
Mathias ZehringMieming range

Mathias Zehring

Voted 10/10

According to the "Alpenvereinseinteilung" system Wetterstein & Mieminger buld one mountain group. But in fact they are two subgroups that both have their excellent page here. So I suggest to handle them as two groups here and give a link to the Mieming range page that is still missing.
Posted Sep 11, 2006 8:42 pm
Vid PogachnikRe: Mieming range

Vid Pogachnik

Hasn't voted

I hope it's done correctly. Thanks for reminding me again :)
Posted Nov 12, 2006 12:53 pm
mvs2nd that!

mvs

Voted 10/10

Hi yes I want to 2nd Matias's recommendation to add the Mieming Range page. It's very good and I like to browse "our neighborhood" with the interactive map image. But it doesn't have an icon for Mieming!
Posted Nov 12, 2006 7:37 am
Vid PogachnikRe: 2nd that!

Vid Pogachnik

Hasn't voted

I hope it's done correctly. Thanks for reminding me again :)
Posted Nov 12, 2006 12:53 pm
mvsKaisergebirge

mvs

Voted 10/10

Howdy Vid, can you update to include Gangolf's excellent Kaisergebirge page?



http://www.summitpost.org/area/range/248374/kaisergebirge.html



I use your interactive map as my way into the ranges. It's very useful!
Posted May 14, 2007 2:47 am
Vid PogachnikRe: Kaisergebirge

Vid Pogachnik

Hasn't voted

Done! I don't know how I missed Kaisergebirge! I also made a link to the new Wienerwald page. Thanks for reminding me and for using my page :)

Cheers!
Posted May 14, 2007 2:33 pm
DoJoerrors

DoJo

Voted 10/10

Hi Vid

I found some errors in the table of section 6 (A Table of Groups, Highest Summits and Current SP Links)



Ötscher is part of the Ybbstal Alps

- http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/191247/-tscher.html



Traunstein is part of the Oberoesterreich Forealps - http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/151205/traunstein.html -



Schneealpe is part of the Mürzsteger Alpen - http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/155128/schneealpe.html



you might add Grazer Bergland to "East of Mur Forealps"(http://www.summitpost.org/area/range/301949/Grazer-Bergland.html)
Posted Jul 15, 2007 2:08 pm
Vid PogachnikRe: errors

Vid Pogachnik

Hasn't voted

Thanks a lot! All done, except that I didn't add Grazer Bergland to East of Mur Forealps. It's an excellent page, but as Stuhleck is the highest summit and it already has its page, the link goes to it. I must soon update the map too.

Cheers, Vid!
Posted Jul 17, 2007 3:38 pm
Ski MountaineerMinor but...

Ski Mountaineer

Hasn't voted

...Graz has an airport too.
Posted Jul 23, 2007 1:55 pm
Vid PogachnikRe: Minor but...

Vid Pogachnik

Hasn't voted

...but important, I know. Thanks! I'll update the map and text. Graz is easy, Maribor is hard. You never know - now it has the airport, then it doesn't.
Posted Jul 24, 2007 6:46 am

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