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| Page Type: Mountain/Rock Location: Snowdonia, Wales, Europe Lat/Lon: 52.84073°N / 3.99508°W County: Gwynedd Activities: Hiking, Mountaineering, Trad Climbing, Bouldering, Scrambling Season: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter Elevation: 2362 ft / 720 m | Page By: Nanuls Created/Edited: Apr 25, 2007 / Apr 15, 2011 Object ID: 288362 Hits: 4467  Loading... Page Score: 89.25% - 26 Votes  Loading... Vote: Log in to vote |
Nestled neatly between the two glacial cwms of Bwlch Tyddiad and Cwm Nantcol rises one of Wales’ most enigmatic but often overlooked little mountains, Rhinog Fawr. Its origins are ancient, being of far greater antiquity than the rocks of the surrounding area. Before the Glyder, Cadair Idris and even Snowdon where thrust up by unremitting tectonic forces, the gritstone rocks of the Rhinogydd stood aloft, and although the natural courses of erosion have now worn them down to mere shadows of their former selves, they remain distinctive and immemorial characters in the Snowdonian landscape.
Along with its southern sister, Rhinog Fach, the mountain lends its name to its home range, the Rhinogydd; but Rhinog Fawr isn’t the highest mountain in the collective, this honour goes to Y Llethr, a little further south again. Despite this, Rhinog Fawr is the better known of the two, and consequently receives more traffic, albeit in Welsh terms, an almost insignificant volume.
Its slopes, which are often steep, are covered by a thick blanket of heather and rock. Paths and other linear features are few and far between, and anyone wishing to make a visit to the mountain should be a navigator of some competence. Rock climbing, as all things, came late to Rhinog Fawr, and it wasn’t until the final years of the 20th century that any exploration of note took place. Now, for those willing to commit to a long approach, and to accept that finding the right crag might be an endeavour in itself, there’s plenty on offer here. Plenty on offer that is, if the climber is a good one; for the crags and cragletts of the mountain are typically Spartan in character, and do not surrender their treasures as readily as those of the surrounding area.
The weather will play a major role in the success of any trip to the area. For the hiker, poor weather means having to rely heavily on the mountain’s complex and delicate topography for guidance, while for the climber, even a small amount of moisture can erase the rock of friction and render it wholly unscaleable. Timing, therefore, is key to success, and since Rhinog Fawr’s close proximity to the sea means it bears the brunt of the area’s climate, windows of opportunity are often frustratingly brief. A well timed expedition however, can reap some truly wondrous rewards. |
RoutesHiking
Cwm Bychan Route
The route starts on the western side of the Rhinogydd at the Cwm Bychan car park (SH 644 313) and follows Bwlch Tyddiad and The Roman Steps up to Llyn Du, gradually gaining around 360 metres in altitude. From here the summit can be reached, either by circumventing the crags below the summit, or by a quick scramble up a short gully, to a broad terrace at around 600 metres, and then up a steep braided path to the top.
Graig Ddu-Isaf Route
The route starts on the eastern side of the Rhinogydd at the Graig Ddi-Isaf car park (SH 680 300), and weaves its way through a coniferous forest to the fore-slopes of the mountain and Bwlch Tyddiad. It then makes its way up a boggy path to Llyn Du, where it joins the previously described route on its way to the summit.
Scrambling
South Face (Grade 3)
This is Rhinog Fawr’s only lengthy scramble, and begins at the narrowest point of Bwlch Drws Ardudwy. It ascends weaknesses in three tiers of short, steep crags, before reaching a wide, level, slabby ridge. It then ascends a series of broken crags, slabs and boulders to the Rhinog Fawr’s fore-summit, where the scrambling ends, and the true summit is just a short walk away.
Rock Climbing
The climbing at Rhinog Fawr are split between a number of small, compact buttress which litter the northern and north-western slopes of the mountain.
Unless otherwise stated, routes are listed from left to right, and are graded and rated with the aid of the Climbers Club Guide to Meirionnydd, so for full descriptions, please refer to this source. Technical grades are generally only given to climbs graded adjectivally as Hard Severe (HS) or above.
Please be aware that Rhinog Fawr is a trad climbing venue and bolting is strictly prohibited. Routes are rated using the British Adjectival Grading System. A conversion table of international climbing grades by SP member Corax is available HERE!
Route Symbols:
| A so-so route, neither good nor bad. Not unpleasant unless otherwise stated. | | A good route which is definitely worth a climb. | | A very good route, one of the best on the crag and well worthy of attention. | | An excellent route, one of the best in the area, and probably in Britain too. | | | No Restrictions
Used to indicate that there are currently no restrictions, either seasonal, temporary or permanent, affecting a route. | | Restrictions
Used to indicate that there are restrictions, either seasonal, temporary or permanent, affecting a route. See the Red Tape and Access Section for more details. | |
Sectret Bay
A hidden gem – impossible to find from the west but obvious from the mountain's eastern approach. Stick this grid reference in your GPS for a hassle free (well perhaps not quite) location – SH 662 294.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 1. | Strong Heather | 9m | 1 | VS | 4a | | | | 2. | A Tomb with a View | 9m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | | | 3. | Esoterica Hysterica | 9m | 1 | E1 | 5a | | |
Min Pistyll
A pleasantly situated and surprisingly easily located crag (SH 660 294) in the little valley that spills forth from Llyn Du.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 4. | Sych | 8m | 1 | E1 | 5a | | | | 5. | Boil and Bubble | 8m | 1 | HVS | 4c | | | | 6. | Ffrwd | 9m | 1 | E4 | 6a | | | | 7. | Cool Grit | 9m | 1 | E3 | 5c | | | | 8. | Emilya | 9m | 1 | E2 | 5c | | | | 9. | In an Ideal World | 15m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | | | 10. | Left to Rust | 9m | 1 | VS | 4a | | | | 11. | A Right to Rust | 9m | 1 | HS | | | | | 12. | Purple Pistyll | 8m | 1 | E1 | 5a | | | | 13. | Fisteater | 8m | 1 | VS | 4c | | |
Tan y Bwrdd
The steep west facing buttress (SH 661 293) some 400 metres east of Llyn Du.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 14. | Airhead | 20m | 1 | E3 | 6a | | | | 15. | Groundpull | 20m | 1 | E4 | 6a | | | | 16. | Underfed | 12m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | |
Y Bwrdd
A fun little crag that sits atop a small platform above Tan y Bwrdd.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 17. | That Panoramic Picnic | 7m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 18. | Scoop of the Day | 7m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 19. | Lichen with Everything | 6m | 1 | HVS | 5a | | | | 20. | Twopicks | 6m | 1 | VS | 4c | | | | 21. | Saliva | 7m | 1 | E1 | 5c | | | | 22. | Wishbone | 7m | 1 | E3 | 6a | | | | 23. | No Table Manners | 6m | 1 | HVS | 5a | | | | 24. | Forked Tongue | 6m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 25. | Sidedish | 6m | 1 | VS | 4b | | |
Lechau Mawr
The slabs and crags above Llyn Du (SH 657 292). They are split into a Lower and an Upper Bank, with Bebop to Splinter being on the lower one and Fear Test to Disco Bugs on the Upper one. Routes are described from right to left.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 26. | Bebop | 28m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | | | 27. | Rock Steady | 28m | 1 | E3 | 5c | | | | 28. | Mist on the Mountain | 40m | 1 | HVS | 5a | | | | 29. | The First Grassfield | 20m | 1 | E2 | 5c | | | | 30. | The Bridge That Jonathan Built | 40m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | | | 31. | Foreign Object | 25m | 1 | E3 | 5c | | | | 32. | Splinter | 18m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 33. | Fear Test | 18m | 1 | E5 | 6a | | | | 34. | Weeping Wall | 15m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | | | 35. | For the Record | 9m | 1 | E1 | 5a | | | | 36. | TLC | 15m | 1 | E3 | 5b | | | | 37. | Peace in Mind | 15m | 1 | E3 | 5b | | | | 38. | Quartz Storm | 15m | 1 | E3 | 5b | | | | 39. | The Collectors' Pot | 25m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 40. | Dead Sea Scroll | 37m | 2 | E4 | 5a, 6a | | | | 41. | Don's Cairn | 30m | 1 | E2 | 5c | | | | 42. | Disco Bugs | 30m | 1 | E1 | 5a/b | | |
Uwch y Llyn
Behind the western end of Llyn Du, a little way up Rhinog Fawr's slopes, is a 15 m high crag with twin arêtes (SH 655 293).
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 43. | Min Fawr | 18m | 1 | E4 | 6a | | | | 44. | Mur y Llyn | 15m | 1 | E1 | 5a | | | | 45. | Min Fach | 15m | 1 | E2 | 5b | | | | 46. | Twyll y Llyn | 15m | 1 | VS | 4c | | | | 47. | Grab Some Holds and Pull in Them | 7m | 1 | E1 | 6a | | | | 48. | White Sand | 7m | 1 | E3 | 5c | | |
Rhinog Fawr (West)
There is a nice little slab some 30 metres left of the Roman Nose.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 49. | Dr Butt Prefers Them Harder | 8m | 1 | VD | | | | | 50. | Celtic Tiger | 10m | 1 | E4 | 5c | | | | 51. | Scarred for Life | 10m | 1 | E3 | 5c | | | | 52. | Bubbles Burst | 12m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 53. | Dynamo MC | 12m | 1 | HVS | 5a | | |
Carreg Shrek
On the same level as the preceding crag, but some 500m left of the crag to Rhinog Fawr, is a crag distinguishable by a central arête (SH 651 301).
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 54. | Go West with the Wicked | 8m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 55. | Shrek | 8m | 1 | HVS | 5b | | | | 56. | Viper in Pink Satin | 9m | 1 | E3 | 6a | | | | 57. | Nakedness Is Very Slow | 8m | 1 | HVS | 5a | | | | 58. | Another Leap of Faith | 8m | 1 | E3 | 6a | | | | 59. | MiniFrocks Are Best | 8m | 1 | VD | | | | | 60. | The Incredible Bounce of Marrow | 8m | 1 | E2 | 5c | | | | 61. | Stubborn as an Ass | 16m | 1 | HVS | 5a | | | | 62. | Ass Landing | 15m | 1 | VS | 4b | | | | 63. | Mowing the Ass | 13m | 1 | S | | | |
Crags North of Gloyw Lyn
A small crag near Glowyn Lyn; find it at SH 645 304.
| No. | Name | Length | Pitches | Adjectival Grade | Technical Grade | Quality | Restrictions | | 64. | Information Cocoons | 15m | 1 | E1 | 5b | | | | 65. | Plugs of Muscle | 15m | 1 | E2/3 | 5c | | | | 66. | Elegant in Socks | 10m | 1 | D | | | | | 67. | Don't Ever Buy Teeth from a Catalogue | 8m | 1 | D | | | | | 68. | Serpent Heart | 8m | 1 | E2 | 5c | | | | 69. | Serpent Mistress | 8m | 1 | E3 | 6a | | |
Mountain ConditionsThis section displays the weather forecast for Llanbedr, which is located to the west and is one of the nearest towns to Rhinog Fawr. Remember that Llanbedr sits at around sea level whereas the summit of Rhinog Fawr reaches 720m. This means that when looking at temperature the adiabatic lapse rate must be taken into account, which in Wales is a drop in temperature of between 0.5 and 1°C per 100m in altitude. Exposure and wind speed can also significantly lower temperatures.
When To Climb and Essential GearRhinog Fawr can be climbed at anytime of the year however in poor conditions the mountain's rock routes are best avoided, particularly if the weather has been wet. March to April offer the most reliable conditions. Of course this all depends on ones ability as a mountaineer/climber, and what might be comfortable for some may seem daunting for others.
If your lucky enough to climb the mountain in winter conditions then an ice axe and crampons are essential.Getting ThereThe Cwm Bychan (SH 644 313) and Maes-Garnedd (SH 641 269) car parks can be reached easily from the A496, which runs along the coast from Llanulltyd near Dolgellau in the south, to Blaenau Ffestiniog in the north.
There is also parking available at Graigddu-Isaf (SH 680 300) on the eastern side of the mountains, which can be reached after from the junction (SH 711 307) just south of Bronaber on the A470.
The area can also be reached by rail, however getting from the stations to the mountains themselves can be difficult as public transport is pretty infrequent and hitch hiking can be a nightmare.
Red Tape and AccessFor the most part there is no red tape, however if you intend to start at Graigddu-Isaf (SH 680 300) and walk through the forest to Bwlch Tyddiad then before setting out it is worth checking if any felling is going on as restrictions on access will be enforced on the affected area. Although For this purpose there is a countryside access map on the Countryside Council for Wales (CCW) website.
Countryside Access Map
For climbers, hill walkers and mountaineers, the British Mountaineering Council (BMC) runs a Regional Access Database, which holds mountain/crag specific information on matters of conservation and access, including issues such as nesting restrictions, nature designations and preferred parking.
Regional Access Database
If you are in any doubt about any particular access arrangement, or need to report an incident, you should contact your local BMC Access Representative or the BMC Access Officers for Wales: Elfyn Jones.Camping and Accommodation There’s an almost unlimited supply of accommodation within the Snowdonia National Park so it would be inappropriate to list it all here. For budget accommodation it’s worth checking out some of the following sites:
Youth Hostel Association in Wales
Independent Hostel Guide
Campsites in Gwynedd
For more local options, there are a number of campsites that surround the range. There's a great little basic campsite at Cwm Bychan (SH 644 313) in the heart of the mountains and in an easy distance from both Rhinog Fawr and Rhinog Fach. Other nearby campsites can be found at Cae Gwyn Farm (SH 713 297) to the east of the range, and Merthyr Farm (SH 600 319) to the west.MapsGuidebooks | Hillwalking in Snowdonia by Steve Ashton
A guidebook to nearly 70 hillwalking routes throughout Snowdonia, including the Rhinogydd. | | Scrambles and Easy Climbs in Snowdonia by John Sparks, Tom Hutton and Gerry Rawson
An excellent and well illustrated guide, which neatly links scrambling with rock climbing and in doing so covers some of the best long routes in Snowdonia. | | Climbers Club Guide Wales: Meirionnydd by Martin Crocker, John Sumner, Terry Taylor, Elfyn Jones, with contributions from Mike Rosser, Mike Lewis and Dave Wrennall
The definitive climbing guide to the area. Contains detailed descriptions and excellent diagrams of all known rock routes in the Rhinogydd. An essential purchase if you plan to do a lot of climbing in Mid Wales. | External Links  Pistyll Gwyn (Photo by Nanuls)
Government Bodies and Official Organisations
Snowdonia National Park Authority
Council for National Parks
Association of National Park Authorities
Conwy County Council
Gwynedd County Council
Powys County Council
Countryside Council for Wales
Forestry Commission Wales
Environment Agency
CADW
Royal Commission on Ancient & Historical Monuments in Wales
Gwynedd Archaeological Trust
Snowdonia Society
The National Trust
Hiking, Climbing and Mountaineering Organisations and Companies
British Mountaineering Council
The Climbers Club
UKClimbing
Plas y Brenin National Mountain Centre
Snowdonia-Active.com
Hightreck Snowdonia
Weather
Mountain Weather Wales
Weather from the Met Office
BBC Weather
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Tourist Information
Visit Wales
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Local Information from Gwynedd.com
Local Information from Snowdonia Wales Net
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Travel
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Uk Train Timetable
Accommodation
Youth Hostel Association in Wales
North Wales Campsites
Maps and Guidebooks
Ordnance Survey
Harvey Map Services
Cicerone Guidebooks
Climbers Club Guidebooks
North Wales Bouldering
Mid Wales Climbing
Cordee Travel and Adventure Sports Bookshop
Wildlife and Conservation
Joint Nature Conservation Committee
Natur Gwynedd
North Wales Wildlife Trust
Royal Society for the Protection of Birds
Welsh Language
Welsh Language Board
Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg Welsh language pressure group
Cymuned Welsh language pressure group
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